Vegas Pro 9 and Imageburn

Just Relax wrote on 8/16/2010, 5:03 PM
Please help me here anyone. Which format should I Render As my video with Vegas Pro 9 to be able to burn it with Imageburn (Imgburn). Iam still having trouble with Vegas pro9 BURN DVD. vegas can't find my DVD Burner. I have tried a lot of suggested solutions but to no avail.

HP Pavilion Elite
8GB Ram, IT Hard Drive
windows Vista premium 64bits
vegas Pro 9 64bits and 32 bits

Any suggestion and advice will greatly be appreciated

Comments

Steve Mann wrote on 8/16/2010, 5:35 PM
Vegas doesn't see your DVD burner because it isn't a DVD authoring program. Use DVDA to make the DVD image then any DVD burn package will work with it.
cbrillow wrote on 8/16/2010, 5:43 PM
I'm still using 8.0c, but wasn't the ability to burn a DVD from the timeline added in 9?
UlfLaursen wrote on 8/16/2010, 8:43 PM
I think it was the late 9.e or 9.0d where it was added.

/Ulf
Geoff_Wood wrote on 8/16/2010, 9:09 PM
But not the ability to Render to an ISO image....

You could find a 'virtual DVD driver that does that -0 will have a look now myself !

Would be a desirable feature for both Vegas and CDA !

geoff
Geoff_Wood wrote on 8/16/2010, 9:11 PM
To clarify - what we need (as a stopgap) is a virtual DVD writer 'device' that you select as the destination writing drive, and instead of burning a disc, writes an ISO file.

geoff
FilmingPhotoGuy wrote on 8/16/2010, 11:42 PM
While we are on this topic, can I just copy the two DVD folders to a DVD disc or is the some render process that take place? Or do I need "burning" software to do this?

Another question, do all DVD players read DVD9 disc's?
PeterDuke wrote on 8/17/2010, 2:25 AM
You need DVD burning software to transfer an ISO image to a DVD.

You can never say that ALL devices will do such-and-such. You can however say that NOT ALL do so-and-so if you know of at least one that does not do it.

Edit

If you mean by "two DVD folders" the video_ts and audio_ts folders, then they should be burnt as a video disc. Nero, for instance, can create both video and data discs. I don't know what the physical difference is, but a video burnt as a data disc will usually play in a computer but not in most standalone DVD players.
ECB wrote on 8/17/2010, 5:40 AM
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FilmingPhotoGuy wrote on 8/17/2010, 9:19 AM
What I'm asking is ..... If I right click each folder (video_ts and audio_ts) and select "Send to" and then select DVD RW is that the same as what Nero or Imageburn will do? I dont' think there is any further rendering needed.
Just Relax wrote on 8/17/2010, 5:05 PM
DVD was added to the late edition Pro 9e which I have. Vegas recognized the DVD burner on my other computer with Vista 32bits. But when I click Burn Disc/ and any of these DVD/VCD/CD on the new computer with Vista 64 bits, Vegas shows "detecting Devices" and freezes up.


"Use DVDA to make the DVD image then any DVD burn package will work with it."

Do you mean not to use Vegas at all? I used vegas to edit the videos and 'Render As' works with vegas. It just freezes up on BURN DISC and I want to know which format to render the videos for burning on other programs especially IMGBURN.

Right now, i am downloading Phantom burner to work with as suggested. Thanks for your further help everyone.
PeterWright wrote on 8/18/2010, 1:06 AM
I'd be interested in hearing chapter and verse on this - I've often just copied the DVD folders onto a disc as data, and they have never behaved any differently to a so-called "video" DVD.
To check, I just tried burning a video DVD this way with Nero - deliberately ignoring the warning about not being a DVD Video Compliant disc, and the resultant DVD played fine both from PC and from a standalone set-top video DVD player
Comparing the contents of the two "types" of approaches, the data appears to be identical, but there may be some fine difference I'm not aware of. Anyone with the full story?

gpsmikey wrote on 8/18/2010, 8:07 AM
Somewhere in the past, I did come across some information that indicated there was a particular order the files needed to be on the DVD disk, not just put the folders there (VIDEO_TS and AUDIO_TS). Nero (at least version 5) does seem to do something along those lines when you create a video DVD - those two folders are a different color than normal, and it seems to me I have seen a brief message go past about "ordering" the files or something. That said, I suspect that these days, most players ignore that requirement and as long as the files are in the correct folders, will play.

Here is one site that talks about the physical file order on the disk: http://www.crazysquirrel.com/computing/debian/dvd-creation.jspx I have seen other references too.

mikey
PeterWright wrote on 8/18/2010, 8:41 AM
Mine's a Sony - don't know if that makes it fussy or not.
Former user wrote on 8/18/2010, 8:44 AM
Sony's are usually very fussy.

Dave T2
FilmingPhotoGuy wrote on 8/18/2010, 9:46 AM
I did a job for a couple who complained that I gave them a "bad" copy of the disc. It turns out that their "expensive" DVD player was choking on 8000 bps DVD that I made but the cheapy from fong kong played it perfectly. The "expensive" player seemed to be fussy in that regard.
Just Relax wrote on 8/19/2010, 10:36 AM
TLF,

which FORMAT should I RENDER AS my video in Vegas Pro 9 to be recognized and burn with Imgbunr?
LReavis wrote on 8/19/2010, 11:12 AM
"I've often just copied the DVD folders onto a disc as data, and they have never behaved any differently to a so-called "video" DVD."

As I recall, Data DVDs can't burn files larger than about 2GB each, whereas Video DVDs can accept files as large as the space on the DVD permits (around 4.7 GB for single-sided disks).
gpsmikey wrote on 8/19/2010, 2:13 PM
Video DVD's also limit the size of the .VOB files to 1 gig or less. If the movie is larger than 1 gig, then multiple .VOB segments are created. See http://www.videohelp.com/dvd and others for the file structure and specifications for a video DVD.

As for the "format to render" to create an ISO for imgburn, you do it just like you would a regular DVD, except where you select which burner to use, you select the option to create an ISO instead. That is how I do it in DVDA when I create my DVD's - leaves me with a master ISO on my hard drive so I can create exact copies of the original any time I want. ( I have not installed Vegas on my new machine yet so I can't verify the exact wording ... but we are getting things installed again !! )

mikey
Just Relax wrote on 8/19/2010, 4:17 PM
Thanks a lot, Mikey and everyone for the suggestions and opinions. I really appreciate you all
ushere wrote on 8/19/2010, 6:31 PM
while we're talking burning.....

anyone know of software that'll handle multiple burners at once?

i'm still using nero 7 since it seems later versions became bloated with stuff i didn't need. it handles my three dvd drives at once with no problem, but i was wondering if there's any other programs out there that'll do the same thing?

PeterWright wrote on 8/19/2010, 7:33 PM
Thanks - good to know about those limitations.

But - If a program such as DVDArchitect is used to build the DVD in the first place, then all those limits are already observed, and if the resultant folders are burned to disc as data, is this any different to burning as a "Video DVD" ?
FilmingPhotoGuy wrote on 8/20/2010, 2:06 AM
@ PeterWright said "DVDArchitect is used to build the DVD in the first place, then all those limits are already observed"

No. In the first place you use Vegas Pro to make an MPG. I'm not sure what you mean when you say "all those limits are already observed". For instance, you may have rendered an HD 1280x720 MPG which will have to be re-rendered to 720x576 (PAL) in order to be written to a DVD disc because DVD players can only read 720x576. DVD-A will re-render it for you. DVD-A is great for making DVD menu's that respond to the DVD player's remote control.


PeterWright wrote on 8/20/2010, 2:59 AM
What I mean, LightAds, is that whatever needs doing to make it a proper video DVD is done in DVDArchitect.
I generally render DVD compliant clips in Vegas, but whether I do or not, DVDA, in the Prepare process, will create VOBs etc which are the correct size and format, so once the VIDEO_TS folder (and the empty AUDIO_TS folder) is written, I assume they contain all that is necessary to make a compliant DVD.