I miss the point to resample with frame blending 240 fps to 60 fps. Deactivate resampling or directly record with 60 fps.

The point is I get some really clean motion blur. So if I switch to 60 FPS I won't get the motion blur.

@r_ad Start with providing some info such as Section C here https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/important-information-required-to-help-you--110457/

Do the blending options under advanced settings in ShutterEncoder not give you a result you like?

Otherwise make this the first thing you do in VEGAS and reencode to 60fps and then do edits using the newly rendered media.

Do the blending options under advanced settings in ShutterEncoder not give you a result you like?

Otherwise make this the first thing you do in VEGAS and reencode to 60fps and then do edits using the newly rendered media.

I haven't found a way to use the blending options correctly and was wondering if anyone else had experience with it.

@r_ad Start with providing some info such as Section C here https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/important-information-required-to-help-you--110457/

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/vegas-19-stops-responding-in-the-middle-of-editing--141427/#write-comment

I shared all the info in this thread

@r_ad Start with providing some info such as Section C here https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/important-information-required-to-help-you--110457/

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/vegas-19-stops-responding-in-the-middle-of-editing--141427/#write-comment

I shared all the info in this thread

Hi, you can't expect people to go looking for that info,

In that thread you say -

GTX 1060 6gb
Ryzen 5 2600
16gb ddr4
500GB SSD

So can you click your icon at the top of this page - My Profile & fill in your Signature with that info, the full name of your CPU, GPU & amount of RAM, also inc the Windows & Vegas version, this will then show at the bottom of your comments &you won't het asked again,

Also in that thread I showed you how & you shared MediaInfo of your media, it may be the same media but this is a new post so you need to do that again.
 

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/vegas-19-stops-responding-in-the-middle-of-editing--141427/#write-comment

I shared all the info in this thread

Oh I see. This is basically a duplicate thread? @r_ad if that's the case please don't create duplicate threads. It only creates confusion.

I know ShutterEncoder is a free encoding software that has plenty of features regarding frame rate (Thank God) but I can't seem to figure out a way or at least understand how to replicate the smart resample frame blending trick that Vegas does with ShutterEncoder. Thanks.

I had a look, I also looked at this in other NLE's, I think but not sure that other NLE's and shutter encoder do a better job of frame blending. I can literally see the parts of each of the 4 frames mixed into the single frame with Vegas during high motion. This is typically not what you would want, but you like it, it's more of a video FX then good frame blending.

As for your crashing, you may have been told this by me or others, in OBS recording settings make sure key frame interval is set to 1, if you're already doing that, could try max B frames to 1. Record to fragmented MP4 with autoremux set to mp4.

Vegas crashes for almost everyone, if you feed it video it likes it may be less prone to crash, is your OBS set up the way I suggest?

I miss the point to resample with frame blending 240 fps to 60 fps. Deactivate resampling or directly record with 60 fps.

The point is I get some really clean motion blur. So if I switch to 60 FPS I won't get the motion blur.

As also stated by @Former user this is the worse motion blur you can get. For adding motion blur directly to 60 fps recordings, I would take a look at the RSMB filter of REVision Effects.

VEGAS is known in the gameplay community for this type of blur. If you follow Todd's capture settings it should work. Otherwise maybe ask on Reddit where there are more users experienced with this

@r_ad Start with providing some info such as Section C here https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/important-information-required-to-help-you--110457/

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/vegas-19-stops-responding-in-the-middle-of-editing--141427/#write-comment

I shared all the info in this thread

Hi, you can't expect people to go looking for that info,

In that thread you say -

GTX 1060 6gb
Ryzen 5 2600
16gb ddr4
500GB SSD

So can you click your icon at the top of this page - My Profile & fill in your Signature with that info, the full name of your CPU, GPU & amount of RAM, also inc the Windows & Vegas version, this will then show at the bottom of your comments &you won't het asked again,

Also in that thread I showed you how & you shared MediaInfo of your media, it may be the same media but this is a new post so you need to do that again.
 

I'm so sorry, let me fix that.

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/vegas-19-stops-responding-in-the-middle-of-editing--141427/#write-comment

I shared all the info in this thread

Oh I see. This is basically a duplicate thread? @r_ad if that's the case please don't create duplicate threads. It only creates confusion.

No, I'm asking a different question. It's a similar subject though.

I know ShutterEncoder is a free encoding software that has plenty of features regarding frame rate (Thank God) but I can't seem to figure out a way or at least understand how to replicate the smart resample frame blending trick that Vegas does with ShutterEncoder. Thanks.

I had a look, I also looked at this in other NLE's, I think but not sure that other NLE's and shutter encoder do a better job of frame blending. I can literally see the parts of each of the 4 frames mixed into the single frame with Vegas during high motion. This is typically not what you would want, but you like it, it's more of a video FX then good frame blending.

As for your crashing, you may have been told this by me or others, in OBS recording settings make sure key frame interval is set to 1, if you're already doing that, could try max B frames to 1. Record to fragmented MP4 with autoremux set to mp4.

Vegas crashes for almost everyone, if you feed it video it likes it may be less prone to crash, is your OBS set up the way I suggest?

Yes, except my max b-frames are set to 2 and I record to MKV, then I convert the video to mp4 h.264 with ShutterEncoder. Let me take a look at that video.

VEGAS is known in the gameplay community for this type of blur. If you follow Todd's capture settings it should work. Otherwise maybe ask on Reddit where there are more users experienced with this

Ok, I'll try.

My main question here was basically asking if Vegas isn't really meant to be able to handle 240 FPS videos and if that could be causing the crashing. And should use ShutterEncoder for the frame blending instead of Vegas?

240fps is not a framerate suitable for video editing. Framerates for video editing are in the range of 24-60fps. Higher recorded framerates are used for creating fluent slow motions. For example 240fps can be used to create 4x or 8x times slomo when played at 60 or 30 fps. Vegas can handle those framerates.

I see. Alright, let me try to work this out and I'll let you know what I find.

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Also, does anyone know why when I convert my MP4 videos to the output codec H.264 in ShutterEncoder the file size drops an insane amount. I use the NVIDA NVENC H.264 encoder in OBS too so shouldn't the file size not change if it's already in H.264? I'm worried that by me thinking it's a cool hack to get smaller files and converting all my videos that I'm not realizing it's actually changing something important to with video, resulting in future problems.