vegas to after effects

dvideo2 wrote on 8/27/2010, 2:15 PM
i just watched a tutorial where the user saved a veas project
as an "AVID LEGACY AAF file" and was then able to import it
into after effects.

i tried saving the same file from vegas 9 (64) bit, and there was
no option to do it, so then tried saving the vegas project in version
9 (32) bit and was able to do it...

however....I couldn't then import the file into after effects....It was
unrecognizable.....

oh----tried bringing it in to after effects cs5

any advice?
thanks

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farss wrote on 8/27/2010, 5:50 PM
I did have some joy going V9>AAF>AE CS3. It worked with cuts only but really I spent more time making it into something workable in AE that I never tried again.
I find simply rendering out of Vegas using the Sony YUV codec, working on that file in AE and rendering back to the same codec in AE to work very nicely unless you need transparency. Then I invoke Uncompressed either AVI or QT, both seem to work just fine.

One tip, if you need to send interlaced footage into AE and back set Vegas to double frame rate and export. Work same way in AE and render out. What you're doing is converting frame to fields and then for the final render out of Vegas converting frames to fields.

If you care to explain specific issues you need to address using Vegas and AE I'm more than willing to try to help. I've really fallen in love with Vegas and AE as a great combination to have. In fact AE makes Vegas work so much better. You need to think about that statement a bit though :)

Bob.
BrianAK wrote on 8/29/2010, 9:15 AM
Hi Bob,

I just purchased the Magic Bullet Suite including Colorista 2. I plan on using the MB programs within AE as some of them dont work within Vegas, and also Ill learn to use AE more.

I was thinking the same thing, using a YUV render to move back and forth within the programs. One question I have been pondering though is with respect to the workflow. Do you generally start with all your clips in AE, apply whatever looks and effects, and then edit them together in Vegas? Or perhaps the other way around, edit first in Vegas and then work in AE on the final cut. It seems the second option might make sense as you are only working in AE with the final cut. But then again, if you are applying different looks to different scenes, perhaps its easier with the original clips in AE first.

Hope you see where Im going with this, and would appreciate any lessons learned or advice. Shooting a surf contest next weekend!

Brian
farss wrote on 8/30/2010, 12:29 AM
Sorry but I really can't give you any first hand advice on this. I mostly use AE for fixups, titles, intros and motion graphics not color grading a whole show.
All I can offer is, based on comments from others here, is you consider NeoScene or better yet if your doing grading NeoHD.

In general, at the pointy end of the business grading is done after editing and on the rendered output so you would be in good company rendering the whole show out to a good codec and taking that into AE and grading it there. My personal reservation with this is you'd then have to find all the cuts by sight. For a grading session that ran for weeks hardly an issue but I doubt this is what you have in mind.

Bob.
dvideo2 wrote on 8/31/2010, 10:24 AM

YUV codec?
YUV render?
I don't see this in my vegas 9e drop down options for renders...
am i missing something?
thanks.....
rs170a wrote on 8/31/2010, 12:53 PM
dvideo2, choose AVI as the save type and you'll find YUV options in the Template box.

Mike
robwood wrote on 8/31/2010, 1:33 PM
"What you're doing is converting frame to fields and then for the final render out of Vegas converting frames to fields."

i think the 1st "frame to fields" is supposed to be "fields to frames" but more importantly, i wanna make sure i understand this:

1) when u flip from 29.97 to 59.94 you render as progressive out of Vegas?
2) when rendering from 59.94 to 29.97 you then add fields back?
3) do you disable resample? or not necessary?
4) what about project interlace settings?

don't need the answer yet, but have a feeling this topic'll come up one day, sooooo...
farss wrote on 8/31/2010, 2:28 PM
1) Yes
2) Yes, make Vegas project 60i
3) Didn't worry about it.
4) Going from 50i to 50p set to Interpolate. Going from 50p back to 50i irrelevant and you can make field order whatever you want.

You can actually do all this in AE itself I believe, I just couldn't be bothered to work out how.

Bob.