Vegas Video Stabilization glitch with rendered clips

konstantinos-sokolas wrote on 10/10/2018, 3:30 PM

Hey guys, i have noticed that, in most cases, when applying stabilization with the new stabilize mechanism of VEGAS 16, all of the rendered clips that the feature is applied on seem to sort of glitch (cropped in and out) in the first 3-4 frames. This bug is visible only in the rendered video but not in the working timeline. Anybody else noticed that on his/her projects?

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3POINT wrote on 10/11/2018, 7:16 AM

Yes, I noticed this zoom-jumping also. Makes the new stabilization plugin useless.

Vegas_Sebastian wrote on 10/11/2018, 11:02 AM

This is a known issue, sorry for that! It will be fixed in Update 2.

Eagle Six wrote on 10/11/2018, 11:51 AM

I haven't seen or experienced this issue. It's sad that sebastianS writes that it is a known issue. I have other complaints about the Video Stabilizer FX which make it pretty much useless to me, but this one does not effect my renders. Windows 7, AMD Radeon R9 390, Magix AVC/AAC MP4, 1080-59.940p Format (Encode Mode: Mainconcept AVC). Perhaps this issue is occurring using a different render Format and Template settings, or GPU.

System Specs......
Corsair Obsidian Series 450D ATX Mid Tower
Asus X99-A II LGA 2011-v3, Intel X99 SATA 6 Gb/s USB 3.1/3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
Intel Core i7-6800K 15M Broadwell-E, 6 core 3.4 GHz LGA 2011-v3 (overclocked 20%)
64GB Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3200
Corsair Hydro Series H110i GTX 280mm Extreme Performance Liquid CPU Cooler
MSI Radeon R9 390 DirectX 12 8GB Video Card
Corsair RMx Series RM750X 740W 80 Plus Gold power pack
Samsung 970 EVO NVMe M.2 boot drive
Corsair Neutron XT 2.5 480GB SATA III SSD - video work drive
Western Digitial 1TB 7200 RPM SATA - video work drive
Western Digital Black 6TB 7200 RPM SATA 6Bb/s 128MB Cache 3.5 data drive

Bluray Disc burner drive
2x 1080p monitors
Microsoft Window 10 Pro
DaVinci Resolve Studio 16 pb2
SVP13, MVP15, MVP16, SMSP13, MVMS15, MVMSP15, MVMSP16

Robert Johnston wrote on 10/11/2018, 3:56 PM

If I clear the Avoid Black Borders checkbox, the zoom-jumping goes away. But then I have black borders.

Intel Core i7 10700K CPU @ 3.80GHz (to 4.65GHz), NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER 8GBytes. Memory 32 GBytes DDR4. Also Intel UHD Graphics 630. Mainboard: Dell Inc. PCI-Express 3.0 (8.0 GT/s) Comet Lake. Bench CPU Multi Thread: 5500.5 per CPU-Z.

Vegas Pro 21.0 (Build 108) with Mocha Vegas

Windows 11 not pro

Eagle Six wrote on 10/11/2018, 5:46 PM

One of my complaints Robert is the 'Avoid Black Borders' option appears to over apply zooming in way further than necessary to avoid the black borders. I uncheck the 'Avoid Black Borders', then click on 'Correction', then apply the zoom manually. Of course then it is necessary to perform a critical review to get the zoom to the least required to remove all the black borders throughout the clip. But doing it that way may help you get past the zoom-jumping. BTW way I still do not have your issue when checking the 'Avoid Black Borders'.

And, until this FX feature is improved I use the Mercalli 4 Plugin, which provides better stabilization, zooms in less to avoid black borders, runs faster, and can be applied at the event level. Another option you may prefer is to fall back to the legacy stabilizer, which I believe is Mercalli version 2. Not as effective in my opinion as the Mercalli 4, but seems to be adequate for events which do not require heavy correction.

System Specs......
Corsair Obsidian Series 450D ATX Mid Tower
Asus X99-A II LGA 2011-v3, Intel X99 SATA 6 Gb/s USB 3.1/3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
Intel Core i7-6800K 15M Broadwell-E, 6 core 3.4 GHz LGA 2011-v3 (overclocked 20%)
64GB Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3200
Corsair Hydro Series H110i GTX 280mm Extreme Performance Liquid CPU Cooler
MSI Radeon R9 390 DirectX 12 8GB Video Card
Corsair RMx Series RM750X 740W 80 Plus Gold power pack
Samsung 970 EVO NVMe M.2 boot drive
Corsair Neutron XT 2.5 480GB SATA III SSD - video work drive
Western Digitial 1TB 7200 RPM SATA - video work drive
Western Digital Black 6TB 7200 RPM SATA 6Bb/s 128MB Cache 3.5 data drive

Bluray Disc burner drive
2x 1080p monitors
Microsoft Window 10 Pro
DaVinci Resolve Studio 16 pb2
SVP13, MVP15, MVP16, SMSP13, MVMS15, MVMSP15, MVMSP16

3POINT wrote on 10/12/2018, 3:56 AM

And, until this FX feature is improved I use the Mercalli 4 Plugin, which provides better stabilization, zooms in less to avoid black borders, runs faster, and can be applied at the event level.

Me too.

NickHope wrote on 10/12/2018, 7:09 AM

...It's sad that sebastianS writes that it is a known issue....

I'd say that's really happy ๐Ÿ˜Š, especially as he says it will be fixed in the next update. It's a new feature and teething troubles are to be expected. It's great that developers are directly contributing more on the forums now than they have in the last 15 years. Let's not scare them off again.

Will-Kenworthy wrote on 10/13/2018, 4:13 AM

Absolutely!! You are right on Nick.

Compared to the bad old days ..... how refreshing to know they are actually listening and involved.

Will

VEGASPascal wrote on 10/13/2018, 7:38 AM

We are always happy about positive but also critical comments. The VEGAS team left all comments and we look forward to your suggestions. As Sebastian has already written, we will remove many annoying bugs in the next update, but we have more plans in mind (with your ideas). ๐Ÿ˜‰

3POINT wrote on 10/13/2018, 8:30 AM

I can imagine that's not easy to make such a complicated piece of software bugfree, but it would help enormous and avoid disappointment when new features would be at least doing what is promised at the moment when they are released. I don't need a yearly new version of Vegas, I can live with a new version, let's say every 2 years. Would give the Vegas team more time to test their new features thoroughly..