Brent McWatters wrote:
>>I was wondering what the differences are between Vegas
>>Video and Adobe Premiere?
>>What are their strengths and weaknesses?
>>What features are most important (and why)?
I'm an new amatuer when it comes to videoediting but I can tell you
this... I tried Adobe a few Weeks ago.. I experimented for hours and
I made a video that was out of control and sync. Then I tried Vegas
Video and suddenly is just twp hours I had a video with a good sync
and the sound and picture made the whole thing enjoyable... So.. what
I'm saying is that Vegas Video is a hell of a lot easier to
understand and work with... But I asume Preimere is a more
professional software if you have a REALLY good computer.
With Adobe I tried applying some blur to a 30 seconds long clip and
it said Time Remaining : about 5 hours... I did'nt see the result to
that I canceled. In Vegas Video I did the blur with an effect that
comes with the program and it was fine and I did'tn have to wait at
I use a PIII 600 mhz and that was not even close to be enough when
you work with Adobe Premiere.
As an old Premiere user / hater I can only say this for starters:
Vegas Video beats the crap out of Premiere any time of the day.
Now for the more interesting part. Bottom line is this: Vegas is
written by / for musicians (basically), and Premiere by / for Adobe
graphicians. Hence, the Premiere graphic capabilities are, in my
humble music-opinion, slightly more intuitive than Vegas, although
also more limited. And as someone pointed out, less optimized for
today's computers, meaning slower and buggier.
However, if you look at audio management, there is really nothing to
say. Premiere is slow, un-inutitive, non-professional, ugly, buggy,
limited, requires extensive work-arounds and simply cannot measure
itself to Vegas. If you're into audio, you simply cannot even
consider Premiere as a serious alternative. Vegas has real-time
effects, buses, direct-x compability, good performance, flexibility,
editability and every -ility you can think of. Premiere has nothing,
except for a few cheap plugins and some envelope editing.
The choice is clear everyday.
Sorry for not being too exact, but you can figure out the rest from
the ads. Just wanted to state exactly how I feel about Premiere
contra Vegas =)
actually, I'm one of those who has gone back to PPro - I use Vegas occasionally, but I find the workflow counter-intuitive - and this coming from soneone who works in Acid Pro and Sound Forge alot! For whatever reason, I find myself frustrated in how Vegas does things with Video. Maybe I have just gotten used to the workflow of PPro, but for quick little edits, Vegas works much better. Plugins are another BIG reason I use PPro over Vegas for my longer projects...
Well, I'm a member of an amateur filmmakers club, and most of the 'old hands', those who produce the more interesting films, all use Premiere.
There appears to be this ludicrous idea that to produce great movies, you have to use what the pros use... and the pros use Premiere, right? Actually, the amateur magazines all say Premiere is the tool to use, so everybody rushes to buy it.
And you know what... I can spot a Premier produced film a mile off... every one, without exception, uses the Adobe Academy Leader! And the films, though interesting, are still pretty poor!
I am the only one to use Sony Vegas. Why? Because it's intuitive, the interface slick, and it helps produce superb quality video AND AUDIO with little effort.
What really matters, of course, is that the tool you use gets the job done quickly, with a minimum of hassle, and in a way you understand. In my mind, Premiere (as will many Adobe products) is a bloated, ill-programmed monster.
Premiere is a body builder, Vegas an Olympic Gymnast. Both have muscle, but only one has grace.
Vegas is by far more stable and the audio tools are better integrated, but Adobe is catching up.
Premier supports the latest DirectX 9 interface and OpenGL 2(Vegas supports the older Directx 7) for Graphics GPU accelerated rendering (will be even more important when DX10 cards and Vista roll out)
Premier supports 32bit fpp per channel rendering, even if you are going to output at 8bit.
Premier easily supports 10bit color via several plug_ins/codecs. If you work flow involves using 10bit color, Vegas is out.
No one in their right mind uses the default codecs in Premier, go straight to MainConcept and get the good ones. If not Mainconcept, search around.
Premier usually crashes at least once a day, and most Premier users seem to think that constitutes stable.
Premier when properly configured with desired plug_ins and codecs is a lot more expensive than Vegas, and thats not included the cost of Audition to bring Premier up to the audio tools present in Vegas.
Adobes DVD authoring program is considered better than DVDA from Sony. But not by much since DVDA 4.
IMHO, Vegas in increasingly oriented toward the wedding/event and eng crowd and less and less toward the indie movie crowd. But there is a lot more money in Wedding/Eng customers. Not that you can't use it for independent movie making.
While Adobe Bridge is a nice app for collecting and importing media, the media manager in Vegas is actually more useful in day to day work.
I could go on, but you have to decide what you goals are and then search for the tools.
If Vegas supported 10bit color and floating point rendering, I wouldn't use anything else. So I am sort of being forced into using Premier unles Sony surprises us at NAB (I won't hold my breath).
Then again since I'm now leaning against the SI2K, I'll probably stick with Vegas and my HD100 for the short term. That and connect HD work fine, not outstanding, but fine.
I have to agree with you on if Vegas supported 10 bit color - I would probably make myself use it more.
Like I said previously - if Vegas had better plugin support, I would use it more, but the amount of third party plugins for PPro and AE blows Vegas away in that regards - not that I'm too happy about that - Vegas is a screamer on XP64 and burning DVD's doesn't require jumping through hoops with DVDA4 like it does with Encore on my desktop machine.
. . Interesting and indicative of the User base that we HAVE wandered OFF the main point . .. and that, dear hearts, is exactly why Vegas is superb! Free thinkers and creators!
Vegas is realizing that there IS another way of "doing" the biz of NLE. Worley got soooo close to it, you could smell it!
"I am the only one to use Sony Vegas. Why? Because it's intuitive, the interface slick, and it helps produce superb quality video AND AUDIO with little effort. What really matters, of course, is that the tool you use gets the job done quickly, with a minimum of hassle, and in a way you understand."
. .What ever gets me closer to the narrative of what I'm doing, is what I want. Narrative is ALL! Vegas just keeps outta my face when I want to experiment.
"Stories are like Arrows in Flight. You have to grab at 'em - otherwise they are lost forever"
And any tool that delivers this for me is crucial. Getting closer to the narrative - Vegas does this, every time.
I have not owned and never produced any work on Prem. BUT, I have done trade shows demoing (well showing-off, actually!) to Premmies just what Vegas can do. You should try Loop Colour Correction and correct in realtime. Try looking over your shoulder and watch their jaws drop? Maybe this has changed, I dunno, but I still can raise a little frisson of excitement when I do it. ( . and THEN showing off Media Manager?!? )
I'm anew wegas 6.0 /7.0 user and I'm very upset inside of this softare
there is an option to us it with Black magic extreme HD decklink card
with their driver 5,6 on SDI or YUV mode during captiuring there is a black frame every 45-60 seconds plus on playback there is a huge stutering which was minimized to 80 % by stripping my 4 drives raid to 0 and changing my processor from Dual Core to Core Duo Extreme E6700 intel which improved the situation but still there is some vibration on HD mode during playback!!! I did complaint to the Sony team how can we correct the problem I was told
Soon Only Not Yet!
Meantime I did swich to Premiere pro 2.0 on the same system and there I'm very satisfied!
Vegas is defiantly Easier to use at the first glance and I love it.
Premier is not as hard as some people make it sound.
In my opinion Premier has more features that are much needed in Vegas, but Vegas is better core editor.
For all new users that want to choose seriously which NLE is best for them, I suggest:
Before buying any software, find tutorials on the considered programs, and after watching them a decision can be made that is specific to the user.
Watching tutorials is a big eye opener. Now a Day all NLEs are can do about the same things just the way they do it is differently. So producing a good video is not based on what software you use but how well you know it and can get around it. SO for new users don't look so much at which one thinks is better, just find out which workflow suites you best and use that software. Learn it and Use it!!!