Vegas vs Edius: playback fps

megabit wrote on 3/16/2008, 5:02 PM

Not to bash Vegas which I really sort of got used to, and like its certain aspects very much - but out of curiosity: why is it that Edius 4.6 is not only capable of smooth, full fps playback of the EX1's HQ mxf's, but does it in real time even with a couple of FX's dropped in?

While Vegas struggles with raw clips, not to mention in 32bit mode or with just a simple filter...

Is the Canopus technology something special and patent-protected, or is it Vegas that's so lousy in this department?

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Bill Ravens wrote on 3/19/2008, 7:34 AM

Right on, DJPadre!!
With an AD or DP staring over my shoulder while I edit, I've caught no end of grief making excuses and trying to explain to my back seat driver what Vegas is doing. Many of these guys are ex-Avid editors, and their knowledge is enough to cause me embarassment with vegas on my workstation.

I've been using vegas since version 3. I really liked this NLE. Unfortunately, when a tool causes me loss of business, its time to move on. Edius is very much in its infancy, like vegas was when I first started using it. By developing a loyal following(aka groupies) a product can do very well. Too bad Sony doesn't understand the concept of customer satisfaction.

Edit: But then again, what do I know? I just read that Adobe's profits have exceeded the annual expectations. And this comes from a company not exactly known for their stellar customer care. Maybe Sony knows we're all expendable.

logiquem wrote on 3/20/2008, 2:54 PM

Not to bash Canopus stuff but...

I had some miserable experiences with Canopus/Premiere stuff some 9 years ago. The system allowed miraculous real time playback of DV materials with a couple of FX when it actually worked... (25% of editing time... not counting zillion of hours for reinstalling everything each week).

After reading some raving about Edius performance, i downloaded the trial yesterday...

My suspicion began when the installer told me to restart the system after installation... (old fashion, no?)

Ok, i said, this is the price to get real performance! So, i restarted, started the thing, answered to all the questions (!!!) and.... the app. was so fast that it quited by itself!

My computer/ XP system is up to date, trouble free and fast but Edius can't run on it...

I think i will wait for an other 9 years and see...

farss wrote on 3/20/2008, 4:39 PM

"My computer/ XP system is up to date, trouble free and fast but Edius can't run on it..."

How do you know it's trouble free?
I've had a similar experience, Ppro would wink out. Went to Vegas and no probs for a long time. Also tried to run various 3D apps. They too would wink out. Strange, those 3D apps are ones run by 100,000 of users. Loaded same 3D apps onto new hardware, no crashes. Now Ppro and AE runs just fine on that new hardware too.
Get some decent system diagnostics and thrash your hardware as hard as you can, I'd be surprised if something isn't broken and getting your hardware running properly would benefit every app you run, including Vegas.

Bob.