I just realized this was all one single sentence:

"tdm plugs for those alone pt is superior
vegas is easy to use but it is years behind protools pt is the de facto industy
for making /editing both music and movie soundtracks that is a fact and for those of you wearing those rose tinted vegas glasses it just doesnt come close, as for sounding digital all digital sounds digital (although radar sounds fantastic cost more than pt though) if you want great sound 2" tape sounds great as does half inch
two track masters 99 % of all records are finished/mastered in protools those of you that dont get it are in denial ease of use does not a worldbeater on its own make features and reliability do and you dont becocome a world standard if you are crap
vegas is ok but in terms of features and cuting edge its strictly bedroom "

That's it. Just one sentence.

Wow.

<<That's it. Just one sentence.
Wow.>>

Right, and just one case of beer. . . !

drbam

From an old post:

In 1999 we had the biggest Pro Tools setup around the city.

Since January 2000 we have been recording, editing and mixing with Vegas. We produce records (7 in 2002), music for TV (12 TV Themes and many many many ads in 2002)as well as music for film (4 in 2002). Only Vegas we use.
Mind you our setup is very audio configured and tuned.

No need to say we have since sold our mega ProTools setup. The guy who bought it is looking for a buyer since he switched to Vegas this year.

Cheers.

any thing you track in vegas can be transfer to pro tools!! i do it all hte time!

ok...mr. phat is, yes, dumb as a freakin log. not to mention illiterate. i think we've established that.

i have a general question. i read all of this talk of vegas replacing audio tracking programs, a concept i am currently unfamiliar with. i've been a cakewalk/now sonar user for a few years, and acid as well. i used to track acid stuff in acid and then the full mix in sonar. since v4 of acid and vegas came out i've started doing my video work in vegas and a lot more tracking in acid. from what i'm reading it sounds like a lot of people TRACK in vegas? is that why it isn't called vegas VIDEO anymore?

i took special note of something in one of the posts that stated you could monitor your current input you're working on WITH effects applied, before recording. that's something i've always wanted to do in cakewalk/sonar but haven't been able to. is this type of 'wet' monitoring available in vegas?

thanks.... [ see, even i can use periods my phat friend....]

Yes, Vegas is leaps and bounds above ACID for tracking. Vegas is a true multi-track recorder. You can record multiple inputs simultaneously, unlike acid. It is leaps and bounds above acid for editing the audio also. It's mixer sections are virtually identical now.

And Yes, Vegas 4 now has input monitoring where you can run the input through an effect on that channel and hear it back.

yes....so I've noticed...vegas rocks. I started my first vegas project wednesday and finished it thursday. no hoops to jump through, no surprises. awesome, awesome program. after mixing the stereo flavor I mixed a 5.1 version and wow! it sounds soooo good in my theatre.... http://staging.csmg.com/xfr/strangedays.mp3 - if you wanna hear what a novice can do with vegas......THANKS!

I find this approach of attacking the person, not the issue, deeply disturbing. Is this an American thing?
Weka

Well the "issue" at hand is really my American boot up your ass, so I'm not too sure.

Save the American bashing bs for #al-queada on IRC

To assume that one is a terrorist just because he makes oversimplified queries is kinda counter-productive, wouldn't you think?

Back to topic:

Vegas really is a bit of an all-purpose program, but its real forte is, needless to say, to juggle around with recorded material. I use it for both music, special effects and soundtracks, and I've yet to be disappointed with the speed-and-ease with which you get your ideas into reality. Music composing or detailed waveshaping is better left to its natural environments (Cubase/Logic and Wavelab/Soundforge respectively) since Vegas has drawn a sharp line between editing and creating, but with a little effort you can get almost anything done in this app.

This was neither an oversimplified query nor an invitation to Pipe to show what a big toughie he is. It was a comment on the standard of discourse that takes place in what is intended as a technical forum. Where I come from, Red would be in hospital and someone would be in jail for the way he addresses any query he happens to disagree with. Hence my comment re location.
Heard a Jack Johnson song on the radio this morning with the line, "you are what you hate!".
I would enjoy visiting this forum more without the agro...
Weka

If you are talking about rednroll, thats just how he is, if you search back thru the forums, you will see Im usually the target of his ire. Get used to it if you hang around here.

Still, dont go judging or spewing biggoted crap about America because of him

*sigh* Victor Vergara, where are you...

(True old-timers of this forum might recall)

If, in fact, I do harbour prejudices toward your country and it’s people, I would think carefully, Pipline, before re-enforcing them.
Weka signing out.

Weka said:
"I find this approach of attacking the person, not the issue, deeply disturbing. Is this an American thing?"

I find this approach of judging an entire culture over an audio software forum "DEEPLY DISTURBING" Is this an ignorance thing? I do believe so.

Weka said:
"Where I come from, Red would be in hospital and someone would be in jail for the way he addresses any query he happens to disagree with."

That's right and God Bless America for the first amendment: "THE FREEDOM OF SPEACH". Go back to your repressed little country and quiver in the corner with your blanky, if you don't like it, you have the freedom to not read it.

Weka said:
"any query he happens to disagree with."

You are wrong, I welcome any query that disagrees with mine. If I can learn from someone else, I am that much more better off. If I feel you are wrong, then I in return will tell you I disagree with you, and also give background knowledge to support my disagreement....Therefore EVERYONE learns from both sides of a debate and can descide for themselves what they believe is correct. This again is a benefit of "THE FREEDOM OF SPEACH". So I guess that makes us American's that much more smarter than you doesn't it? Therefore, we are smarter than to judge an entire culture by an individual forum, obviously you are not.

Weka said:
"I find this approach of attacking the person, not the issue, deeply disturbing."

How ironic, you totally attacked me, and offered NOTHING to the topic. Now go back and reread the topic and see how I addressed the issue.

Proud to be an American,
Red

hahahahhahaa

umm...i think sonic foundry needs to open up a dedicated "fights" forum. you know, for those situations that cross over from the world of "discussing/debating" to that of "blowing off steam at another's expense". we all need to do it from time to time, let's face it.

m

ps weka, a good way to get back on topic is to relinquish that ever-so-coveted "last word" and just let things go. as red puts it, this is an audio software forum. there are no weight divisions, competitors, or belts to be sparred over. not saying you're the only one in the history of the internet who's guilty of saying something at an inappropriate time/place, but people come here to discuss software and learn from one another. let's try to keep that in mind when typing our comments, and (more importantly) let's try to lay off the anti-american (or ANY nation, for that matter) remarks, ok?

just a suggestion...