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jetdv wrote on 6/6/2003, 10:22 PM
Is it an OHCI compatible card? If not, Vegas can't use it.
JohnnyRoy wrote on 6/6/2003, 10:48 PM
The DC10 is an analog MJPEG capture card. I also own a one (which I don’t use anymore since I got a Studio Deluxe card) and the Video For Windows (VFW) drivers that shipped with the original Studio DC10+ 1.06 would be recognized by other software but these drivers didn’t work with WinXP. When Studio 7 came out, they made drivers for DirectShow compatibility but now any other software does not recognize the card. This is Pinnacle’s deliberate decision to keep their hardware proprietary and you can’t blame Vegas nor any other video software because Pinnacle is to blame.

I would complain to Pinnacle and ask that they develop drivers that can be used with other software but I’ve complained several times and concluded that they just don’t care. That’s why I tell people to never purchase hardware from Pinnacle because it locks you into using their software.

Welcome to the club.

~jr
kingkool682 wrote on 6/7/2003, 1:04 AM
Pinnacle sure has an ugly side. Well you can always fix the problem by getting a firewire card. You can find them for less than 20 bucks on eBay. I'd suggest a pyro fire wire card. I used to have a DC+10 then decided it's time to go firewire and get more quality video.
JohnnyRoy wrote on 6/7/2003, 9:47 AM
Getting a firewire card is suggesting getting a new camera $$$ since a firewire card cannot be connected to an analog camera. Your best option would be to think of Studio 7 as a capture and print to tape program just like Vegas has a separate capture program. Yours just happens to be Studio 7. Then do everything else in Vegas.

I still use my Studio 7 for Hollywood FX Pro, and SmartSound. So I just think of it as an add-on program like After Effects. It’s just not tightly integrated. Don’t get hung up about doing everything in Vegas. Soon you’ll be using tools for particle effects and 3D effects and lots of other reasons to use tools outside of Vegas.

~jr
eddydde wrote on 6/7/2003, 3:57 PM
Thanks JohnnyRoy, sort of makes a lot of sense!

eddydde
millertime83 wrote on 6/8/2003, 11:00 AM
So if you're using Vegas to edit video captured with the DC10+ in Pinnacle, what file format and setup should you use to render the video in Vegas before using the "Make Movie" output in Pinnacle. Because right now I used avi NTSC DV and the quality is very poor.
donp wrote on 6/8/2003, 2:38 PM
Before switching over to Vegas V-4 I used Studio 7 and still do for some things, however since last January I abandoned the DC 10 Plus 1.06 and have done all my captures whether in Studio or as now in Vegas with the Canopus AVDC-1394 OCHI card with the front bay option. I can connect my HI-8 Sony camera to it with no problem. The Canopus card was more expensive than the Pyro card, but less costly than a digital camera. The "locked audio" feature was too good to pass up and that sold me on the Canopus product.

Studio 7 can import an AVI captured by Vegas with no problems.
JohnnyRoy wrote on 6/8/2003, 2:59 PM
> So if you're using Vegas to edit video captured with the DC10+ in Pinnacle, what file format and setup should you use to render the video in Vegas before using the "Make Movie" output in Pinnacle

Millertime83, I would use the MJPEG codec from the DC10+ when in Vegas. The DC10 captures 320x240 or 640x480 but DV is 720x480 and uses a different codec so the entire video must be stretched and recompressed. That is probably why you’re not getting good quality.

If you keep your video in the original format and codec then you are only recompressing the parts you change (i.e., transitions and overlays) and you’re not stretching at all. Set up your Vegas project to be 320x240 or 640x480, whatever you used to capture. This is what I’d bring back into Studio for MakeMovie.

~jr
millertime83 wrote on 6/8/2003, 10:35 PM
Does this have anything to do with the reason why the interlacing is so apparent in the final video? Whenever the camera moves there is a lot of motion blur, and when scenes change or the flash from a still camera goes off, the interlacing is very apparent. I tried capturing the vidoe in Vegas 4.c originally, but the aspect ratio was messed up and the picture came out tall and skinny. Thanks
whitneyd wrote on 6/8/2003, 10:43 PM
Been there......
The Pinnacle DC10+ and the Deluxe AVDV 1394 boards are inferior to the Canopus ADVC 1394.
However, the Studio 8.21 MPEG-2 Encoder produces a better picture at 4mbps than VV4.
JohnnyRoy wrote on 6/9/2003, 7:47 AM
> Does this have anything to do with the reason why the interlacing is so apparent in the final video?

This is a field order problem and one of the many bugs in Studio. There were versions of Studio that marked the footage as upper frame first when, in fact, it was lower frame first. Just go into the Video properties and force it to lower frame first. (or swap it if it already is). This should clean up the motion you are seeing.

~jr