Vegas4e Hoontech DSP2000 C-Port

HM wrote on 11/28/2003, 2:20 AM
Hi Folks,

I've been watching this forum with interest the last 2 years and after working with a lot of demo versions in all release stages and working with vegas in my friends studio. I have decided to purchase my friends release because he changes to pyramix hardware system. In the meanwhile I am really adicted to vegas because of its intuitive usabillity (sorry for my poor english - its not my native language) and so on...
My problem is that I own 2 c-ports hoontech and I have big problems in getting them to run properly with vegas 4 (latest - and also the version before) that means at 24 bit 48 khz. Every time I start Vegas the lights go out on my external unit and the sound is gone too. My workaround is to switch of the external links software and restart it after starting Vegas. But the main problem is that no matter whether using wdm or asio drivers - I cant see any response when I switch on the red button of the tracks. No matter which input I select, all are dead.

I installed my cards into my friends pc where he also has samplitude 7 and sx2 installed and the cards work there without any problems - it is only vegas that doesnt work at all.

Is there anybody out there who uses the same cards with vegas, XP, 24/48?

thanks in advance

Mark

Comments

akg wrote on 11/28/2003, 4:35 AM
sorry !!
May I ask a question - How mush pyramix hardware system did your friend buy ??
HM wrote on 11/28/2003, 7:18 AM
He has not baught it yet, but he intends to do that. I myself dont know anything about that concept.

Is there anybody who can help me with my problem?

Mark
HM wrote on 11/30/2003, 11:43 PM
Any help appreciated!!
HM wrote on 12/1/2003, 10:59 PM
Is there nobody of sony who can help me?
pwppch wrote on 12/2/2003, 2:07 AM
Don't have that hardware here, so not much we can do.

Did you contact Hoontech? What did they say?

Peter




HM wrote on 12/2/2003, 2:26 AM
Until now I didnt even get an answer - I have been watching both boards an noticed that there are hardly any people who have a working system in this config.

In older posts hoontech always said: get the newest version of vegas and something about 24bit and 3 bit (driver..??) no idea, but there is no way in vegas to controll how 24bit (real or not) should be handled.

my last chance is that there is somebody here who has a working c-port/24bit/48khz on xp.

mark
HM wrote on 12/2/2003, 2:45 AM
hi peter,

I got an answer at last and did some tryouts at some of my friends pc's. all with nearly the same config - mainboard, chipset, os....

this is the answer I received and I will try out this evening, I would appretiate any suggestions from your side.
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Hi Claus,

thanks for your quick reply, I will try out your suggestions this evening although I wonder why this issue is only with vegas 24 bit.

I had no problems with samplitude and sx (legal versions) - you can imagine what fun it is to persuade my friends to try out my card in their systems - vegas did not work in their pc's too.


Mark

Claus R wrote:
> Hi,
>
> > I managed to install my c-port (at least one of them)and now I have the
> > problem that every time I start vegas (the newest) all lights go off at
> > the extention module and no sound comes out.
>
> Are you 100% sure that this happens? I have never seen this and I have no possible explaination for it unless a very strange fault in the hardware (which I have never seen before) or an even stranger problem with driver installation (which again I have never seen before).
>
> > My workaround for this Problem so far is that I exit the external links
> > software and start it after starting vegas. The lights go on again and
> > sound is there too.
>
> Please uninstall the driver with DSP24INF.EXE. Make sure there are no rests of older driver installations and then reinstall the driver again. This indicates a software issue (but then again, I never heard of something like that and I have no technical explaination for this).
>
> Oh ... one question: what number did you use (DIP switch) on your external box? If it is not 1, change it to 1 (turn off the power!) and see if the problem still exists.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Claus

pwppch wrote on 12/2/2003, 1:51 PM
Don't know what you mean by

"24bit and 3 bit"

You set the project bit depth to control the hardware bit depth. Internally Vegas works in floating point format until it must convert for the hardware.

Q: Are you using ASIO or Wave Classic mode in Vegas?

Peter





HM wrote on 12/2/2003, 11:45 PM
Hi Peter,

I dont know what was ment by the 3 bit...

The workaround sent by staudio was no use, the problems occur in both modes asio and wdm. I really dont know what to do now !!???


Mark
pwppch wrote on 12/3/2003, 3:31 PM
Mark,

If you want, have the tech at Hoontech email me:

phaller@sonypictures.com

Perhaps together we can figure out what is going on.

Peter
dbOS:||00 wrote on 12/3/2003, 3:33 PM
I have a c-port, DSP2000, XP, and have not had any bad experiences using vegas or any other of the SONY (sonic Foundry) software for a long time. What are you setting your hardware configuration to on the external links menu? Your audio settings should be set to ASIO, otherwise there would be no sound from the c-port...

If I knew more about your computer, I might be able to suggest more...
dbOS:||00 wrote on 12/3/2003, 3:41 PM
I have a c-port, DSP2000, XP, and have not had any bad experiences using vegas or any other of the SONY (sonic Foundry) software for a long time. What are you setting your hardware configuration to on the external links menu? Your audio settings should be set to ASIO, otherwise there would be no sound from the c-port...

If I knew more about your computer, I might be able to suggest more...
HM wrote on 12/3/2003, 11:58 PM
Thankyou Peter and dbos1yo (what a name)!!

I just downloaded the newest ESI driver from Staudio and I will try this evening. Unfortunatly I wont be able to give a feedback until monday because I'll be on a few gigs.

The thing that gets me nervous is that, the card works like charm with other software.
My config is a epox with KT133 chipset (this is the mainboard which is not recomended for c-port because of poor busmastering and I intend to buy an other one later - but for one card its still OK - at least with sekd samplitude 7 and my newest try with nuendo 2.1)
You can't imagine what one has to do to get his friends to borrow their software and dongles - not talking about always installing new xp before and after.

AMD 2400+ CPU / WD-HD 7200rpm / 512 infineon RAM 333

but every time I switch on vegas, all lights go off......
dear dbos1yo, my hardware setup is asio, buffer 1024, dipswitch 1 - as I told before works with other soft.
There is one more strange thing with the audio setup/preferences. When I set the audiocard to the dsp asio driver and then look to the default recording device a see the same input (no1 - I dont know it by heart because im at work now) ten times instead of a display of all real inputs as seen with the other softs.
dbos1yo could you give me a hint what you see there and how your hardware and software setting is for 24bit/48khz?

thanks all for your help up to now, its good to know not beeing alone.....sob..**

Mark


HM wrote on 12/4/2003, 11:45 PM
hi peter,

this is what an other user from polland wrote to me about the 24bit issue:

what staudio told mewas that their newdrivers
use somenew method of streaming the signal (3 byte sth), and
that it's the software's fault that it can't read such stream.
The bright side is that Sound forge 7 can do it so hopefully it
will be introduced in them next versionsof vegas and acid
HM wrote on 12/10/2003, 3:14 AM
Hi Peter,

got any news from staudio/esi in the meanwhile - a lot of vegas users are waiting for some approachment

Mark
pwppch wrote on 12/11/2003, 2:26 AM
Nope, They don't appear to be interested.

On the forum you pointed me to it is NOTHING but nightmares for ALL users of this hardware/drivers. Sounds to me like their drivers leave a lot to be desired.

Will let you know if I ever hear from these guys.

Peter
HM wrote on 12/11/2003, 4:44 AM
Peter may I give Claus (he is the german guy at staudio and was mostly very helpful) your e-mail adress so that you can get in contact?

Mark
HM wrote on 12/11/2003, 4:45 AM
Peter, you can contact Claus also directly 0049 7152 398880.
HM wrote on 12/11/2003, 7:45 AM
This topic seems to be for me alone.....


Peter, I have met a guy in the staudio forum who has a working vegas/c-port at 24bit/48khz - unbeleivable! 7.2.08.06 is the driver number and the vegas build is 115!

I will try out this weekend.

Peter, I just got a message from staudio.....

We have not been contacted by Sonic Foundry (or Sony) ... I am sure I would know about that. In case he (I guess it is Peter Haller?) is trying to contact Hoontech, he will have not a lot of success of course ... no one at Hoontech has any relation or responsitiblity for the DSP24 series of products after ESI took over the ST Audio business. Most people at Hoontech would not even be able to respond to english language emails.


Anyway ... there is no problem with Vegas. It is running perfectly fine with the DSP24 series hardware.

I told you before (here) that the problem you have reported sounds very strange to me and it either can be explained by a strange problem with driver installation (that I never saw before) or a defective hardware (that I never saw before either). It is not a driver problem and it is not related to Vegas.

Best regards,

Claus


----the weird thing about this is, that my card worked perfect with any other soft.


Mark
pwppch wrote on 12/11/2003, 5:51 PM
Please, pass my email to them

Peter
pwppch wrote on 12/11/2003, 5:52 PM
Phones are soooo old fashion<g>

He can email me or provide me an email address.

Peter
HM wrote on 12/11/2003, 11:28 PM
I just did it....
skeeter wrote on 12/19/2003, 10:21 AM
i also have problems with the c-port, and vegas at 24 bit. on 2 different computers now. my new one is a
dell 4600- 2.4 pentium 4
intel 865 pe chipset
512 mb ram ddr pc 2700 333 mhz
acpi mode ( i have tried standard mode on my las comp also, to no avail)
2 c-ports

everything works flawlessly till i try 24 bit, then KABLOOIE, it's lockup time.
i have given up trying. sony says "have staudio call us", staudio says there are no problems with their drivers, despite NUMEROUS posts indicating problems, AND their own admission "what staudio told me was that their new drivers use some NEW method of streaming the signal (3 byte sth), and
that it's the software's fault that it can't read such stream." (this is from a post from this thread about 10 posts ago). a NEW method???? and it's not their drivers that cause problems, but everyone eles's software???