Vegasaur -- Ghost?

FoskeyMedia wrote on 6/19/2017, 3:59 PM

I'm using this template - WEDDING MEMORIES.
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I've rendered it a few times, Once using Main Concept Internet HD1090p tem[plate and another using Main Concept Program Stream NTSC Widescreen,

Both times most of it looks good...but some portions have a heavy static/flickering. I don't see it when I play the timeline.

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FoskeyMedia wrote on 6/19/2017, 4:01 PM

Something I just noticed
On some of the slides, I replaced the video file.... it flickered between the video file I'm using... and the one that was there originally. (hence the ghost)....
 

fr0sty wrote on 6/19/2017, 5:20 PM

the link isn't working. can you post an example of the static/flickering?

FoskeyMedia wrote on 6/19/2017, 5:35 PM

fr0sty wrote on 6/19/2017, 5:50 PM

Are all of those instances that are flickering from the same video clip, or is it affecting more than one clip? It seems as if some are fine while others aren't, it's possible it has something to do with that clip if all the bad ones are from one clip.

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Systems:

Desktop

AMD Ryzen 7 1800x 8 core 16 thread at stock speed

64GB 3000mhz DDR4

Geforce RTX 3090

Windows 10

Laptop:

ASUS Zenbook Pro Duo 32GB (9980HK CPU, RTX 2060 GPU, dual 4K touch screens, main one OLED HDR)

OldSmoke wrote on 6/19/2017, 6:20 PM

If not done already, try rendering with GPU off.

Proud owner of Sony Vegas Pro 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 & 13 and now Magix VP15&16.

System Spec.:
Motherboard: ASUS X299 Prime-A

Ram: G.Skill 4x8GB DDR4 2666 XMP

CPU: i7-9800x @ 4.6GHz (custom water cooling system)
GPU: 1x AMD Vega Pro Frontier Edition (water cooled)
Hard drives: System Samsung 970Pro NVME, AV-Projects 1TB (4x Intel P7600 512GB VROC), 4x 2.5" Hotswap bays, 1x 3.5" Hotswap Bay, 1x LG BluRay Burner

PSU: Corsair 1200W
Monitor: 2x Dell Ultrasharp U2713HM (2560x1440)

FoskeyMedia wrote on 6/19/2017, 11:08 PM

They are from seperate clips/ What I may try to do iis recreate the project. It plays fine on timeline and I never see an issue until after I render.

GPU is off already.

FoskeyMedia wrote on 6/20/2017, 2:47 AM

OK I tried reloading the files. Didn't help// and now I do see it in the timeline when I scroll. I havn't had this problem before (although I havn't used the template a WHOLE lot).

Could it have to do with the fact thatthese clips are no more than 11 seconds, and out of 30 of them.,,,most are video (just a handfull of stills)

FoskeyMedia wrote on 6/22/2017, 10:39 PM

Just checking back. Anyone have a clue? I'm stumped.
Thinking....MAYBE it has something to do with resources??

Video_flaneur wrote on 6/23/2017, 1:31 AM

Your subject heading mentions Vegasaur. Did they provide the template? Have you tried asking them?

Laptop: Asus W.10, 64 bit, i7-3630QM @ 2.4 GHz; 16 GB Ram, Intel HD Graphics 4000 and NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M

Vegas Pro 19 (Build 643); Vegasaur Toolkit 4.0.1; ProDad Mercall v.4; HitFilm Pro Version 2021.1; Acid Pro 10; Sound Forge Pro 12;

Jerry K wrote on 6/23/2017, 8:52 AM

This is the first time I'm seeing this and it is beautiful. You can buy it here...

http://vegasaur.com/WeddingMemories

Cost $29.95 After viewing it on Vegasaur website I think your problem is that it's only designed to work with photos not video.

Jerry K.

FoskeyMedia wrote on 6/23/2017, 9:48 AM

Jerry,
I want to disagree with you..but you may be right. I can and have used video in it before and it's worked fine, but everything in the promo says PHOTOS...and maybe the fact that it's CAN use video doesn't mean it's supported. I don't see why not. After all it is Vegas in the end.. this is just a template and If I designed it myself I'd expect it to do video. But, this template is VERY involved and intense. It could be my prior speculation..being so complex in the inside, video with this many functions and edits may be too intense for my resources.

I'll try dumying it down little by little and swap out some vids for pics. The thing is...it takes a long time to render (like one time 9 hours. I supposed that again is due to the complexity of the design and number of videos.

 

Arthur.S wrote on 6/23/2017, 12:02 PM

The fact that it takes so long to render sounds like your PC may be struggling with it. Could you render out say half of the TL tracks involved, then the rest and then put those on a new TL and render that?

FoskeyMedia wrote on 6/24/2017, 9:20 PM

what I did was redo the entire project. Fewer videos. I also moved everything from the external drive it was on to my local C drive. It rendered without flicker and this time only took 2.5 hours.

This may be a question for another thread... but I notice when I render....my PC gets louder...meaning I guess the fan is working overtime I guess. Does anyone else get this? My PC is an I7 Dell with 16GB Ram. but it's over 7 years old (still runs well for the most part from what I can tell).

 

 

FoskeyMedia wrote on 6/24/2017, 9:36 PM

I just noticed on another project...the "properties" for the clip has a switch 'decrease interlace flicker" I wonder how that would effect it.

Arthur.S wrote on 6/25/2017, 11:06 AM

The fan noise is probably because it's working so hard. I've never used external HDD to render to or from, and never the system (C) drive. I am old school with that and render to/from internal HDDs. Never read/write to same disk either. This was always best practice. I'm prepared to be told I'm wrong on this though as external HDDs with USB 3 are obviously much faster now. Your external is USB 3?

FoskeyMedia wrote on 6/25/2017, 3:54 PM

Well,,, my external is USB3..but my MB doesn't support it.. so I'm running USB2. That's one reason I"m thinking of keeping everything local and using external for storage and archive.

When you say "Never the system (C) drive".. do you mean you partition your HD or you have a secondary internal HD?

Arthur.S wrote on 6/26/2017, 4:38 PM

I have a system (C) drive + 2 internal HDDs. 'Capture' and 'Render'. I render from one to the other. I also use USB3 (+some older USB2) external drives for archiving. For rendering something complex such as your project, I wouldn't consider anything else. Old school as I said previously. 😉

OldSmoke wrote on 6/26/2017, 8:51 PM

I have a system (C) drive + 2 internal HDDs. 'Capture' and 'Render'. I render from one to the other. I also use USB3 (+some older USB2) external drives for archiving. For rendering something complex such as your project, I wouldn't consider anything else. Old school as I said previously. 😉

Old school is good school!

Proud owner of Sony Vegas Pro 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 & 13 and now Magix VP15&16.

System Spec.:
Motherboard: ASUS X299 Prime-A

Ram: G.Skill 4x8GB DDR4 2666 XMP

CPU: i7-9800x @ 4.6GHz (custom water cooling system)
GPU: 1x AMD Vega Pro Frontier Edition (water cooled)
Hard drives: System Samsung 970Pro NVME, AV-Projects 1TB (4x Intel P7600 512GB VROC), 4x 2.5" Hotswap bays, 1x 3.5" Hotswap Bay, 1x LG BluRay Burner

PSU: Corsair 1200W
Monitor: 2x Dell Ultrasharp U2713HM (2560x1440)

winrockpost wrote on 6/27/2017, 7:40 AM

usb2 may not be the only issue but a definite BIG issue in trying to edit, let alone render a complex project,as oldsmoke says.

FoskeyMedia wrote on 6/27/2017, 7:46 AM

I hadn't really considered that. After moving everything to the C (systems /application) drive I did see the render time go from 8 hours to 2.5 I don't know if that is the only reason, but it helps. I may test other renders if I get the chance.