I am between projects and debating doing the Windows 10 upgrade. Now that it has been out for awhile, I would like to hear what effect the Win 7 to Win 10 upgrade had on various users' Vegas 13 production. What had to be reinstalled, re-registered, etc.?
It was a few months ago but I had to also revert back to 7 with a fresh install as the Windows 10 revert button would not work. I had loads of issues with rendering etc. Completely brought my editing to a stop. there was a lot of drivers that did not update. I don't like the fact it will install updates with out you having control. If it did this in the middle of an edit and it went wrong like some graphics cards updates have done it could be very disruptive at peak wedding season.
Like windows 8 it has a much faster boot up time BUT it does so by sort of being in a hibernate mode instead of a true shutdown. There have been a number of times when Windows 10 would not completely boot up properly.
The software that monitors my CPU temperatures (I cannot remember the name because my brain is old) does not always come up on boot. There are other minor miscues as well. The system does not always run up to par. So I will then do a restart which actually does clear out the cobwebs and then everything works as it should.
If there is a setting to make Windows 10 shut completely down and boot up slower but correctly, I would like to know what it is and not have to waste time restarting to get the cobwebs out.
I used to be able to play DVDA mpeg files that do not have audio with Windows Media Player. I can no longer do so. Also, I cannot find a way to set the colors correctly so that the top of the player window is not white and annoying.
The overall stability is better on my system. USB 3 and many other functions work better as well. Internet sucks bad with Windows 10! I cannot copy the cookies with their passwords like I used to. So I had to re-log-in on all of my favorite sites on my editing system because I could not export the cookies from my notebook computer. It ONLY allows import!
So, it is a big mix of positives and negatives. One has to decide if the negatives are more than they want to deal with. Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit is what I was using and I noticed that it was getting quite flaky at times.
I did have a few BSOD's with Windows 10 at first but those seem to have disappeared after a few updates. At least I have not seen them for quite a while now.
I did an upgrade from Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit. I did not do a clean install because I did not want to deal with trying to reinstall all the stuff I had. And I could not find a simple way to save all of my Vegas settings without going through a whole lot of crap to do it OR having to spend money on software to do it!
If SCS releases another build, they should provide a built-in utility to save ALL of the Vegas settings so one can either do a re-install of Vegas after a clean install of Windows or an install of Vegas on a new computer without all of the hogwash! And I do mean ALL of the settings not just a few main ones!!!
I still have the Windows 7 boot on a back-up drive if I should get tired of Windows 10 BUT I cannot copy my current Vegas setting to it because the reasons I already stated! Come on SCS, please get this right!!!
Anyway, those are some of my thoughts on this for now. I got to get back to editing...
It's the future of PC operating systems. Eventually we'll all be on it.
Just be glad you weren't a Mac user when Apple went from OS9 to OSX. OSX wouldn't work on most current hardware so all Mac users had to replace EVERYTHING in order to stay current! Though of course the Mac world is so much better for it. OSX has remained the platform that all of their operating systems have been built on for the past 15 years!
I think this is Microsoft's plan with Windows 10 also.
Went through smoothly on 4 machines. Win7 to W10. Made an off machine image using Macrium Reflect (free) but Windows own 'backup & restore' is more than adequate.
Out of interest tried revert back to W7. Failed on 1st machine so tried the rest as I upgraded. Only worked on 2. Restored failed machines back to W7 and upgraded a second time. Deleted the W7_Old files from the upgrade and took yet another image.
Have since clean installed W10 on 2 of these pc's.
Still prefer W7 but a couple of years short of 80 so somewhat set in my ways.
The one think that has gone, and I need it, is the Virtual PC running in Win XP mode. I was able to run old programs under it, but not any more. I had an installation of the development environment Dephi on there, and now cannot run it. The new version of Delphi costs a ransom.
Fortunately I kept an image of Win 7 on a SSD so I can swap it into use if I need.
The upgrade from 7 went smoothly, with no issues so far. I have not done any proper tests but it seems no faster, and sometimes hesitates to open a new window. Copying files seems to require a few more mouse clicks. There have been no obvious advantages, except that I am where the world is moving to.
There's no way I'm letting Windows 10 force itself onto my main machine. We had one tablet that I allowed Windows 10 onto. I found the interface slightly better than Windows 8.1 but still requires Classic Shell to be usable. I despise all the junk that comes with the install. Windows Store wouldn't work and Windows 8 + without access to apps is pointless. Trying to return to 8.1 didn't work, neither did refresh and using reset bricked the whole tablet totally destroying the touch functionality. It's currently back with the makers and I have yet to discover whether they will fix it under warranty or not.
The combination of forced updates and destruction of privacy with Windows 10 makes it a no-go for me. There's a tool called O&O ShutUp10 that is supposed to give the user the control back including blocking updates but I don't know how well it works since I now don't have Windows 10.
I think it's a shame the path Microsoft are taking. The one advantage of Windows was that there was some user choice and control and Microsoft seem hell-bent on taking that away.
Most everything feels faster in Win 10 to me, compred to previous OSes. (My profession is PC tech for 20 years)
Example for me other than basic ZIPPIER overall feel, is ejecting SD cards. For reasons that seemed silly, doing so used to take 2 to 20 seconds, and now Win10, it is almost instant. Like it always should have been. YMMV
But I don't feel 10 is "ALL NEW", just some upgrades to basic 7/8 engine. If it was all new, tons of things would be crashing - like every other new OS upgrade did.
Only thing I had to do was update ONE driver for a touchpad on one laptop. So, I don't count that as a fault.
> Posted by: GeeBax "The one think that has gone, and I need it, is the Virtual PC running in Win XP mode. I was able to run old programs under it, but not any more. I had an installation of the development environment Dephi on there, and now cannot run it."
Get the free VirtualBox. This will allow you to run Windows XP on Windows 10. There are ways of converting your Virtual PC image to VirtualBox format.
If you need help, contact me off-line via my forum profile and I would be happy to help you with it. I use VirtualBox every day for my work.
i made a clean install of windows 10, everything was fast and working. as mentioned, usb hardware detection as uber-fast. everything worked great.
but the amount of stuff i had to remove to make it "clean" was absurd. and in the end still i didn't like it. not even the basic theme i was able to use, cause they removed it (i like clean grey colors)
in the end, the good stuff didn't surpass the bad stuff. went back to win7. installed clean, a few teaks, everything works as i want it. to me feels as fast as win10.
> "PC makers' tech support asks customers to avoid Windows 10"
This isn't new and is *extremely* important to understand. When you buy a pre-built PC from Dell or HP or Lenovo, you can only get support if you still have the original OS that it was sold with. As soon as you upgrade they don't want to know you.
I had this happen to me when I upgraded a Dell computer to Windows XP. Even though Dell provided all of the drivers on their web site, once I contacted customer support and they found out that I replaced Windows 98 with Windows XP they refused to answer my questions until I put Windows 98 back on the computer.
You have to admit, it's in their best interest. They sold you a turnkey system and they only support the system the way it was sold.