Video freezes on NEXT button, Audio works fine

cortan wrote on 3/24/2016, 9:51 AM
I'm stumped. Any help would be greatly appreciated!!

Overview:

Sony Vegas Pro 12
- Project settings template for DV widescreen 29.97
- No scene markers in project
- Rendered using Mpeg Concept 2, using DV widescreen template (using 9,600,000 bit rate)

DVD Architect 6.0
- template for DVD widescreen
- Scene markers set in Architect
- Bit rate set for 9.6
- Two separate links to two separate videos from the Main Menu
- Menu and NEXT button works fine in DVD Architect Preview

TDK DVD-R discs
- Never had any issues before, using the same recent Sony DVD/Blu Ray player.

I have rendered and architected many projects before with no problem. On this last project I produced version 1, which played back fine. But, I needed to make some additional editing and volume changes, so I created version 2 and rendered again.

In DVD Architect, I created a second DVD project and added the new media back in, doing everything the same such as markers, etc.

Now, when I play back version 2, this happens ... The Main menu comes up fine. I can select either of the two videos and they start and play fine, UNTIL I hit the NEXT or PREVIOUS button. The video freezes, but the Audio skips back and forth normally.

Fortunately, I kept a backup of my FIRST Vegas render. In DVD Architect I prepared the FIRST render again, and it still worked fine. I prepared the SECOND Vegas render and the playback problem happens. So, somewhere in my SECOND render, something happened or changed that is causing to pull my hair out. I don't want to redo my entire Vegas project from scratch. : (

What is causing this?!! Please help!

Comments

Former user wrote on 3/24/2016, 10:36 AM
Are you programming the NEXT and PREVIOUS buttons or are you talking about hitting NEXT or PREVIOUS on your remote while one video is playing?
videoITguy wrote on 3/24/2016, 10:42 AM
Cortran, you have come into a vexing series of complications.
1) Generally, the problems of markers with next/prev navigations has most to do with the media, and secondly the hardware player - you need to always test on more than set-top player.
2) Also always test your navigation travel with mouse buttoning in a Windows OS full-fledged DVD software player to compare nav issues. Not DVDAPro - preview - that is not a true test.

I assume from your description that you have one working project in each app with separate creation factors.

3) Better yet always compare against creating one working project in DVDAPro and substituting (replacing media) from VegasPro renders into the single working project of DVD author.
john_dennis wrote on 3/24/2016, 1:28 PM
I generally do all my markers (which become chapter points) in Vegas Pro. Vegas Pro has the ability, when rendering, to place an I-frame in the rendered file exactly where the marker needs to be.


See first red pointer in this link. I don't think DVD Architect does this without re-rendering the media.

The markers can be saved in the video and/or the audio file and DVD Architect can load them from either based on an Internal switch that can be changed. See my post in this thread.

This workflow allows one to reuse DVD Architect projects by replacing the video and audio media for each title in a project. You may have to manually strike the Load Markers button above the DVDA timeline and adjust the out points for the media, but that, to me, is far less tedious than doing a whole DVDA project for every two videos .

If your render really is defective from Vegas you will likely still have to determine why, but my advice will make the process a little less tedious.
cortan wrote on 3/24/2016, 1:33 PM
Thanks guys for your QUICK response! Appreciate it.

Both versions 1 and 2 were rendered using the SAME Vegas Pro media and renders. And, both tested fine using Windows player (i.e. next, previous, and mouse). Only the Sony DVD player has an issue with version 2, when using the remote control NEXT function.

I will test it on my neighbors DVD and let you know.

Also, could it be that my bit rate is too high (9,600,000)? What is the highest recommended bit rate that is safe all around for a regular DVD? It just seems funny that Audio skips around normally, but video locks up.
videoITguy wrote on 3/24/2016, 1:45 PM
Cortran, you notice that John_Dennis wise remarks follow suit on what I stated earlier. That is the proper workflow to establish a forward bound authoring project.

As for your bit-rate - you don't say how you arrived at that - if its video rate only..etc. At any circumstance far above where you should be. For most compatible disc on many set-top players - your combined average bit rate for audio and video should be about 7, not 9.6.

By the way high-bit rate fluctuations will interact with the quality of your burn media and the burn rate to produce tempermental disc behavior. So more than one factor at work concurrently.
john_dennis wrote on 3/24/2016, 4:22 PM
Just for yuks, I would download a copy of Bit Rate Viewer to determine the maximum and average the bit rate in the problem files.
musicvid10 wrote on 4/6/2016, 7:09 PM
9.6 Constant Bitrate is way too high.
Many players will freeze, an older CM will smoke (really).

Try two-pass at 9,500,000, 6,000,000, 2,000,000
If that works, tweak the average bitrate for optimum quality vs. disc capacity, but don't go above 8,000,000..