Video Quality Gets distorted when I put a video clip into Vegas Pro 14

MikeOxlong wrote on 1/27/2017, 10:17 PM

So I'm having an issue with Vegas pro 14. I don't understand why any and all clips I try to put into vegas pro get distorted for some reason. It's not motion blur, (I've looked it up) it's something else. I dont think its an issue with the preview window because my computer specs are more than able to use everything on max settings. And I dont think its the render settings either because it just renders it exactly how it looks like in the preview window. I use mp4 format for all videos. I don't know what the problem is. I've tried looking it up but haven't been able to find an answer. If someone that knows what's wrong, I would really appreciate the help.

Here is an example of how it distorts the quality:

Original video clip I used:

After putting video clip into vegas pro: NOTE* yes I did crop it into a cirle and put it in the corner, that's not the issue, the issue is the video quality is all blurry and distorted even tho the original clip is not. I think its a problem in vegas.

These are all the settings I use on vegas pro:

Project Properties:

Render Settings:

Preview window settings:

Comments

Former user wrote on 1/27/2017, 10:54 PM

This may not be the main problem, but you are rendering to 30fps when your original is 29.97fps.

MikeOxlong wrote on 1/28/2017, 1:28 AM

This may not be the main problem, but you are rendering to 30fps when your original is 29.97fps.

Yeah, I tried messing with that. after rendering it, half the video was good, but the first half was still blurred and distorted. so idk, maybe you're on to something...

3POINT wrote on 1/28/2017, 3:56 AM

Try to render with Sony AVC internet 1080p30 rendertemplate instead of Mainconcept.

By the way, your footage looks like it is 4:3 SD progressive. Why using 16:9 HD interlaced project settings?

Wolfgang S. wrote on 1/28/2017, 7:42 AM

That seems to be transport streams from broadcast stations. Vegas was never optimized for that but for camera footage mainly. So for this type of transport streams the useage of other tools could be the solution.

MikeOxlong wrote on 1/28/2017, 11:35 AM

Try to render with Sony AVC internet 1080p30 rendertemplate instead of Mainconcept.

By the way, your footage looks like it is 4:3 SD progressive. Why using 16:9 HD interlaced project settings?

Tried the sony template, did not do anything. still the same problem. As I said, I don't think it has to do with the render settings, the video itself becomes distorted when inserted into vegas, rendering it doesn't change anything. As for why the project settings are 16:9 HD is because that video clip I'm using is not the whole video, it just a meme that I want to overlay on my main gameplay video.

MikeOxlong wrote on 1/28/2017, 11:37 AM

That seems to be transport streams from broadcast stations. Vegas was never optimized for that but for camera footage mainly. So for this type of transport streams the useage of other tools could be the solution.

I don't follow what you're saying... the video clip file I'm using is mp4 which should be compatible with vegas.

MikeOxlong wrote on 1/28/2017, 12:47 PM

Mp4 is the container, the box where also the video is stored among other files.

That video is compressed with a codec and it is the codec that's important for Vegas.
So let your video analyse by MediaInfo to know what codec is used and tell us your findings.

not sure where to find that. But I took a picture of all the video properties of the original video. Let me know if this what you need.

john_dennis wrote on 1/28/2017, 2:05 PM

It worked for me. This is the way I would do this sort of thing. Download the two projects from here. (Edit: Link removed.)

Open Nested.veg and replace the media with your interview file. Save and close Nested.veg.

Open Main Project.veg. If the video is still distorted, look at your source video.

My results are here. (Edit: Link removed.)

MikeOxlong wrote on 1/28/2017, 5:27 PM

It worked for me. This is the way I would do this sort of thing. Download the two projects from here.

Open Nested.veg and replace the media with your interview file. Save and close Nested.veg.

Open Main Project.veg. If the video is still distorted, look at your source video.

My results are here.

didn't work. But interesting enough, I found I have still have an old version of vegas pro 13, and when I used the video clip in it, it wasn't distorted... I guess it's specifically some sort of bug in vegas pro 14 that distorts. This seems like an awful lot of trouble just to fix this issue. So I think I will just rather use my older version of vegas or switch to adobe premiere where this issue is non existent. Thanks for your help everyone. I appreciate it. I'm gonna mark this as a solution so no one else wastes their time looking at this.

Wolfgang S. wrote on 1/28/2017, 6:40 PM

No, this is no solution and therefore we will not mark that as a solution since that is very missleading.

And if you can accept that or not - Vegas is not build for transport streams recorded from broadcast stations. That is why you see the issues. There are special tools in the market that can do that much better. Or one has to prepare the stream - but that is also some work.

xberk wrote on 1/28/2017, 7:05 PM

>> But interesting enough, I found I have still have an old version of vegas pro 13, and when I used the video clip in it, it wasn't distorted.

Wolfgang .. I accept your comment about Vegas "not being built for transport streams from broadcast stations", but can you explain why VP13 runs this without any problem in the same environment?

john_dennis wrote on 1/28/2017, 7:22 PM

We need the Mediainfo report from the media the OP is using.

Wolfgang S. wrote on 1/29/2017, 6:18 AM

Wolfgang .. I accept your comment about Vegas "not being built for transport streams from broadcast stations", but can you explain why VP13 runs this without any problem in the same environment?

Well we have not received a sample of this specific footage, so nobody here can test that by himself. And even if we would have a sample, the typical user (including me) will not be able to trace that down to the file structure (so even a Mediainfo report may not help at all I am afraid). Sure, one can assume that something was changed in the decoders integrated in Vegas Pro 14 compared to 13, if it works a little bit better in VP13, but how much is that "little bit better"?

What one can try is to take a typical transport stream as used by broadcast stations and test, how well or how poor it works in Vegas. And then compare it to dedicated transport stream editors for this type of streams, at it is simple to google for those tools. But my experience is that you end up with a lot of freezing, crashes, blocking - some points as described here again.

The point is really that Vegas was designed all over the years for camera footage, and from time to time that results into frustration from user who think that it should be also capable for ts-streams from broadcast stations because it is "simply mp4". But it is not as simple as that.

Red Prince wrote on 1/29/2017, 10:32 AM

That seems to be transport streams from broadcast stations. Vegas was never optimized for that but for camera footage mainly. So for this type of transport streams the useage of other tools could be the solution.

I have to disagree. I have never had any problems with using TS footage in Vegas.

What one can try is to take a typical transport stream as used by broadcast stations and test, how well or how poor it works in Vegas.

I have just tested that, and it works really well. And I used a true TS from a broadcast station (i.e., not cable or satellite, but the raw transport stream captured by a regular TV antenna).

Of course, standard TS is a container for MPEG-2 data, so if the file in question is MP4, it probably is not a transport stream. Then again, it is hard to help an OP who ignores all these requests to post the output of MediaInfo (perhaps he doesn’t know what MediaInfo is).