Video Recording Direct to HD/Timeline?

mhbstevens wrote on 8/5/2004, 5:24 PM
My camera is a Canon Z65 but I hope a PD170 will come before Christmas, and I ask with either of these cameras, can I record directly to the computer HD? To clarify: I have the camera filming in the studio and it is pluigrd into the firewire slot and it records no on to the tape in the camera but directly into the Vegas timeline. Just as one captrures voice-over audio with the record button.


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PeterWright wrote on 8/5/2004, 6:05 PM
Not straight to the timeline, as with audio only, but if you open the Capture Utility, disable device control and click Record, Vegas will capture directly from your camera to HD. The resultant clip can be lifted straight to the timeline afterwards.

It's a good idea to also run camera tape as back-up in case of any hiccups.
musman wrote on 8/5/2004, 6:10 PM
Are you using a laptop or or desktop/workstation? I've been asking at DV.com's forum about laptop capture and the general opinion was that laptop capture with either Vegas or Avid (hiss- hatred of Avid) is ify.
But as far as I know there is no way to capture video directly onto a timeline in Vegas. The DVRack may have more in this line and is worth a look. It was also recommended at least for a trial run, for laptop capture.
This is also off the thread a bit, but I own a pd150, have used the pan dvx100, and have done some research on the pd170. Unless you need minidvcam (very, very unlikely), there is absolutely no reason to buy the pd170 over the dvx100. I kick myself everyday that I didn't wait a little bit and buy the dvx100. Please learn from my mistake.
John_Cline wrote on 8/5/2004, 6:26 PM
First of all, there certainly are reasons to buy a PD170 over a DVX100. For one thing, the PD170 is MUCH better in low light. If you are doing "event video" then the PD170 can't be beat. However, if your doing "film style" video under controlled conditions, then the DVX100 may be a better choice.

Secondly, I do most of my shoots by capturing directly to the hard drive of my laptop using the capture portion of Vegas. I have shot this way for quite some time now and in hundreds of hours of shooting, I have never had a dropped frame or a problem of any kind. Some of my productions involve continuous captures of over two hours in length. The laptop I have used until recently is a Dell 8200.

I am particularly excited about DVRack and have just downloaded the beta version. I'll install it and try it out next week.

John
mhbstevens wrote on 8/5/2004, 8:13 PM
I have been recording direct to the HD but I was hopeing to be able to route that input stream to the time line so I could use the camera as a talkover mic in some situations. Seems it ought top be possible to link it to the timeline as audio does so well.
musman wrote on 8/5/2004, 10:17 PM
Interesting. I was specifically warned off buying from Dell, HP, et al and was directed to 1beyond's white paper on why 'consumer' laptops are designed for battery life and their mobile processors can't keep up with video editing/acquisition needs. Here's the link:

http://www.dv.com/jive3/thread.jspa?threadID=300015812&tstart=0

Were you capturing to the internal hard drive or an external drive? I'd also be curious about what you're using now as a replacement.

certainly don't want to start a fight over cameras, but I'm still partial to the dvx100's lens, audio, and ability to shoot 24p (2 ways) or 30p.