video track blacks out at 9:35 on timeline

mayberryman wrote on 5/18/2003, 8:01 PM
Have used vegas video (v3.0) for quite awhile...and have been talking it up to a friend. He downloaded the demo, and created a 10:16:17 video which he rendered as an .avi. The avi plays completely using windows media player.

He deleted all the files used to create the video and today decided to load the .avi into vegas for additional testing.

But... Vegas cuts the video (not audio though) at 9:35:24.
Assuming it might be a "limitation" of the demo, I transferred the .avi to my system and loaded it into my registerd version.

Same thing....plays all the way thru in windows media player, but Vegas cuts the video (not audio though) at 9:35:24. The video track on the timeline from 9:35:24 to 10:16:17 is completely black. Vegas will not play any video past this point...wmp will.

So...are my suspicions on target? Does the demo version of Vegas, "do" something which causes any rendered file to drop the video at 9:35? If not, any thoughts as to what in the world is going on?

Comments

kameronj wrote on 5/18/2003, 9:15 PM
To the best of my knowing - the demo is pretty much fully functional (with the exception of saving files, or working with MPEG files). Never heard of it being timed out at 9:35 seconds.

Have you tried to re-render the file to some other format (say WMV) file and see if it craps out at 9:35?

I can see a file not opening in VV, but opening in WinAmp (or other players) - but if the file opens and plays but stops at a certain poing - not too sure what that would be. But it does sound a lot like some codec files somethin or other.
jetdv wrote on 5/18/2003, 9:39 PM
Sounds like you are hitting the 2GB limit of some AVI files.
mayberryman wrote on 5/19/2003, 5:45 AM
I thought about the 2 gig limit...and the file is 2,245,348 KB, but we're both using XP (him home edition...me prof)...and while I don't know what his file structure is, I'm NTFS...and still...the video is in the file as wmp plays it..... so I can't see why that would keep me (at least) from being able to load it...
jetdv wrote on 5/19/2003, 9:28 AM
I didn't mean that your computer couldn't physically see greater than 2 GB. Some AVI file types are limited to 2 GB. Maybe Vegas is seeing the file incorrectly. You may want to try changing the Options - Preferences setting to use external codecs and see if that helps (I would immediately go change them back afterwards).
mayberryman wrote on 5/19/2003, 9:42 AM
hmmm...is it possible that vegas can render an .avi which it can't load? that surprises me....I'll try your suggestion when I get to my video machine later today....
jetdv wrote on 5/19/2003, 10:10 AM
Actually, AVI's rendered in Vegas should be readable in Vegas. I've never had a problem in that regard.
kameronj wrote on 5/19/2003, 12:43 PM
So wouldn't ya know it - now I'm having the same problem....sort of.

I have a file that plays just fine in any of my media players. But when I bring it into VV - the video stops at a certain point, but the audio keeps playing.

I 2xchecked to see if it was a resource thingie - nope...pleanty of juice.

I 2xchecked to see if I could split the file where it was "freezing" the video and just put that on a line by itself and only run that footage - nope...still froze.

I 2xchecked and re-rendered just that portion on of the file - nope...video froze, audio playin.

But it plays just peachy in the media players.

Weired.

Good thing it was just a "play around with" file. I mean, I didn't loose any important footage or anything like that.

But I did loose the very first movie that I ever shot and edited. It was a production I did in High School - shot that puppy on Super 8MM file (silent) and overdubed audio after the fact. Well, it wasn't really an overdub - I ran a tape recorder and had my actors redo their lines - then played the tape back when I turned on the projetor (I know...real cheesy and not very professiona!! What can I say, I was 13!!)

4 hours before the first showing, the bulb on my projector blew and I had to scamper out to get another one. Only problem was it was a Sunday and the normal place I would go to get a bulb was closed. So I had to borrow another project. Only problem was being my first movie (and the fact that I was in High School) I didn't realize that a different projector would run at a different speed. So all my audio was out of synch!!

Then, evantually, I lost the footage and audio tape.

So if anyone finds it - I would be a real happy camper if you can get that back ta me.
mikkie wrote on 5/19/2003, 2:42 PM
with wmv at least, might try indexing it using one of the MS tools or something similar that will force rewriting the header etc.
mayberryman wrote on 5/19/2003, 7:51 PM
i did use wmp to re-save the .avi with a different file name. The resulting file was (of course) exactly the same length, and played just fine in wmp...but the video track is black from 9:35 to 10:16 in vegas :( This is really, really puzzling...and unfortunately...not building confidence in a guy who was planning on purchasing this week....

Hey sonic foundry techs???? Any ideas? How could the vegas demo render an .avi, but trying to put that same .avi back into vegas (demo or full) result in loss of video track...yet...the .avi file plays perfectly in window media player?

At this point...to recover the last 41 seconds, I used the very bad kludge of playing the file using windows media player & an s-video cable, and taping the missing video...then putting it back into vegas. Of course the video is then saved at less than 720x480...I have to resize...lose video quality....sigh....

mayberryman wrote on 5/20/2003, 7:40 AM
sonic foundry techs??? any ideas?
kameronj wrote on 5/20/2003, 9:11 AM
Mayberryman...

Does your video that was rendered have a watermark on it?

Are you using the demo for vegas 4 - or are you using Vegas 3 LE?
mayberryman wrote on 5/20/2003, 12:14 PM
his video does not have a watermark on it...making me think he did it using the vegas 3 demo....i'll ask him for sure....