Video tracks &project file vanished while working on a VPro21 project

ernie-tamminga wrote on 4/25/2024, 7:12 PM

Vegas Pro 21. version 300 on Windows 11 latest release. After I'd edited about the first 20 minutes of the multicamera (2-camera) show I'm working on, the video tracks suddenly disappeared from the timeline, and the Project file (veg file) also disappeared, and I had to start over on the whole project. I've gone back to Vegas Pro 20 to resume working on this project. I'll try VP21 again later at a less "risky" time; ie, when I'm not facing a deadline.

I know... never a good idea to upgrade in the middle of a project.

Comments

RogerS wrote on 4/25/2024, 7:23 PM

Really, the .veg and the backup files disappeared entirely? Very alarming. Do have advanced save enabled if you haven't.

Wolfgang S. wrote on 4/26/2024, 5:26 AM

What do you mean by „the project file disappeared?“ Was it deleted from the ssd/harddisc?

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set wrote on 4/26/2024, 8:24 AM

So far experiencing new builds, never having a project disappearance.

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ernie-tamminga wrote on 4/26/2024, 9:04 AM

That’s encouraging to hear, set. Yes, in the project I referred to, the video files in my timeline disappeared after about 20 minutes of editing. And when I went to re-open the veg file, it had disappeared from my hard drive. In fact, the whole project folder disappeared. As I said originally, I’m hoping this was just some kind of weird coincidence that happened right at the first time I used VP21…. But it does have me spooked.

i finished my project using VP20, and will soon try a new project in VP21, backing everything up manually every few minutes as I go…

Wolfgang S. wrote on 4/26/2024, 9:36 AM

How can a file disappear from the hard drive? Have never heard that before.

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set wrote on 4/26/2024, 9:51 AM

Ok, this is the very weird case I ever heard, but do you still have the backup original media in the other hard drive? Hopefully yes.

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ernie-tamminga wrote on 4/26/2024, 7:18 PM

I had never heard of such a thing happening before, either (and I hope never to again...).

Fortunately, I still had my raw, unedited files. They just disappeared from the VPro timeline, and the VPro project file disappeared from my hard drive. I have no idea what to "blame it on", I'm just worried that it happened during the very first project I started in VPro21. It's not happened in any other "environment", such as photo-editing, manuscript-creation, etc. I feel somewhat encouraged by the fact that nobody else seems to have had this experience in VPro21.

(btw I've been a Vegas user for lots and lots of years... since the days when it was an audio-only work environment, before Sony acquired it and expanded it into a full-on video-editing toolset.)

set wrote on 4/26/2024, 7:50 PM

Do Save and Save-as in later time, having multiple project files more than one. Hope this can help.

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Harold-Linke wrote on 4/28/2024, 4:39 AM

The only idea I have how this could happen is that a virus checker sent the folder into quarantine erroneously. I cannot imagine that VP21 is removing a complete folder while it is working on it.

Dexcon wrote on 4/28/2024, 6:25 AM

This situation just goes to prove the wisdom of having backups of all media right from the outset as well as .veg files even if Advanced Save is active - just in case the HDD/SSD fails or is zapped by a power surge.

On a very popular local AM talkback radio station, one long-time program host who is way into 'tech' has for years said, "If you don't have it on 3 different backup drives, you don't have it!".

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