Vista 64 bit and native Bluray burning ???

Christian de Godzinsky wrote on 11/23/2008, 12:49 PM

Hi,

Everyone touts that Vista 64 supports Bluray natively. I upgraded because of this reason - from XP 64 bit to Vista 64 bit ultimate. In XP the new DVDA did not see my bluray burner (LG-internal-sata).

However, Vista 64 ultimate does not seem to support direct to disk burning of files, especially if my Bluray write-compatible drive contains a Bluray disk???? Is this the way it should be, or am I missing something?? Or my system???

The blu-ray drive works ok with Vegas and DVDA...

Christian

EDIT: The native burn to disk seems to work with BD-RE disks, but NOT with BD-R disks! Is this normal??? Also the write speed to BD-RE is very slow!!! Im at this moment copying 20Gbyte of files direclty from my SR12 USB-connected cam to the internal BD-burner, and the speed is about 3,45 MB/sec... Rather slow, I would say.... :(

EDIT2: Why on earth can't the MS programmers get it right. Vista 64 ridiculously tells me it takes 6 days an 5 hours to copy the remaining 16.1GB, at a speed of 3,47MB/sec. Totally ridiculous...

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blink3times wrote on 11/23/2008, 1:37 PM

I have vista ultimate 64 and a LG internal burner.

The first thing Vista does when I put in a blank BD-r is come up with a "would you like to prepare the disk" pop up.

I have no issues at all. Vista works with it just fine. Did you do a firmware upgrade on the Drive?

Christian de Godzinsky wrote on 11/23/2008, 2:01 PM

Nope, I did not. However, the drive is rather new. Can you please tell me what firmware your drive has, if its not too much to ask...

Christian

blink3times wrote on 11/23/2008, 2:20 PM

I've got the H20L and my firmware is YL-03. There is a further one.... YL-05 I think it is... but the 03 works for me.

Christian de Godzinsky wrote on 11/27/2008, 11:49 AM

Hi Blink

I have the same burner, I even upgraded with the newest firmware (YL-05), but still I have the same problem:

Inserting a BD-R disk and trying to prepare the blank disk in Vista 64 it says:

"The file system is incompatible with this disk" !!!

I have selected the UDF 2.5 file system, acutally Vista gives not other options. Is it so that VIsta 64 cannot burn direct to disk on BD-R or what is wrong?

BD-RE works fine.

Please steer me in the right direction..... !!!

Cheers

Christian

EDIT:

I just read about Vista in Wikipedia:

Service Pack 2 is currently under development,[70] and a beta was released to a small group of Technology Adoption Program customers on 29 October 2008. The actual release date will be dependent of feedback of the beta testing

The following feature (among others) will be added in Vista SP2:[74]
Ability to record data on to Blu-ray media natively in Windows Vista.

UNF***ING BELIEVALBE, Vista supports Blu-ray but it does NOT support Bluray. Hurray? Why does native burning work with BD-RE - (or is it actually native after all - I have the Cyberlink HI-def suite installed...) ????

Confusing...

Laurence wrote on 11/27/2008, 2:07 PM

All they are talking about there is being able to burn data to BD-R/BD-RE in a Windows Explorer window without a dedicated Blu-ray burning app. This is not related at all to using dedicated Blu-ray burning programs like DVDA.

Christian de Godzinsky wrote on 11/28/2008, 8:36 AM

Hi Laurence,

Yes, that is understood, DVDA and Vegas burn gladly BD-R and BD-RE disks.

But that is not the issue, as my subject suggests. Vista 64 bit ultimate is NOT able to burn files to BD-R, when I just would like to backup files from my SR12 videocam directly (or via an HD) to BD-R.

Those ridiculous 3rd party burning programs wants first to "compile" the imported files, and even worse, COPY them in some kind of buffer (on HD) before actually starting the burn process.

Imagine, dragging 20Gbyte wort of files in such an application... Before the copying starts, the application copies 20Gbyte of files to another location, BEFORE the actual BD-R burning starts, and this I would like to avoid. It adds to the burning time a lot... And requires HD space - for nothing...

On the contrary, this copying in Vista works like a charm (direclty form the SR12 to a BD-RE). My question is - WHY on earth does it not work when the target is a BD-R ????

So is it a shortcoming in Vista or what?

Christian

blink3times wrote on 11/28/2008, 2:40 PM

As far as I know, the only way to make a BD data disk with BD-r is with the supplied software. You should have received cyberlink hi def suite with you H20L. Did you not?

Christian de Godzinsky wrote on 11/29/2008, 5:23 AM

Yeah, I have the Cyberlink High-def suite that followed with the LG drive. But please tell me how to make a backup (the easiest way) of files on my SR12 - directly to a BD-R - without first copying them to a HD buffer??? The files ARE already on a HD (inside the SR12), why does Cyberlink insist of compying these files first???

I just want to make a simple DATA BD-R of the files on my SR12 - directly? Is that totally impossible?

Sometimes I feel really dumb...

Christian

blink3times wrote on 11/29/2008, 7:58 AM

I don't have the SR12 so I could not tell you for sure. On a pure guess though I would say that there is something different about the sr12 HD that won't permit a direct transfer. You can TRY image burn and see if that works. I know it will do data disks with BD-r (doing one right now) but again it may not work with direct transfer from your cam

http://www.imgburn.com/

Christian de Godzinsky wrote on 12/1/2008, 10:50 AM

Hi,

The SR12 is just as any external 120GB USB drive connected to the computer. Actually, it makes no difference where the original files reside, but my Vista 64 bit ultimate cannot burn natively BD-R disks...

BR-RE works - why?

Can anyone confirm or correct me ?????