VMS 11

msavard wrote on 6/8/2011, 1:48 PM
I must say I am a little (lot) disappointed with this new version. I just bought VMS 10 about 2 months ago and this new version really doesn't have that much new in it. Considering the $80 upgrade price(!) for a few new titling options, a few more codecs and 3d editing(?) I hardly think it's worth it. Oh well...there are a lot of other programs out there.


sergiob wrote on 6/8/2011, 1:58 PM
And apparently no 64-bit version. Not much insentive for me to upgrade either.
Eugenia wrote on 6/8/2011, 1:58 PM
The $85 upgrade is for the Production Suite version, which in my opinion is a waste of money. Never go for that "free sound effects and graphics" cr*p, because they don't add anything of value to your work, just gimmicks. The upgrade price to Platinum 11 without the extras is only $65. Go for that one instead. Your old installed gimmicks will still work anyway.

As to if it's a useful version or not, it depends what you need. If you do 3D, it's a must have. If your footage is h.264 (AVCHD/dSLR/digicam footage), then it's also a must have since its decoder is faster. If you still use DV/HDV tapes, then, no, it's not a must-have, stay with what you have.
musicvid10 wrote on 6/8/2011, 2:53 PM
Looks like not everyone has gotten the email yet.

The upgrade to VMS11 for users with a qualifying serial number is $49.95 through the end of June.
msavard wrote on 6/8/2011, 4:02 PM
I think you're right. Not needing 3d video, not using h.264 and not needing any of the extras (yes, they were totally useless) I guess i will stay with what I have. Its nice to know it's useful to some people though.

Thanks for the quick summary.
drguitar0001 wrote on 6/8/2011, 5:02 PM
To be honest, VMS 11 is essentially VMS 10 with bug fixes and a few relatively minor upgrades. Still, I will be glad for the bug fixes since I bought VMS 10 a year ago and it has not been usable for me.
Eugenia wrote on 6/8/2011, 5:12 PM
Actually, the 3D component is not a minor upgrade. It required a lot of rework on how things work under the hood and lots of rewrites at places too. While you might not be using 3D (I don't either), it's still a major overhaul of the engine.
pierreontheair wrote on 6/8/2011, 11:54 PM
Frankly, who cares about 3D ? They'd better fix AVCHD editing before adding other functionnalities. Bugs such as needing to take the finalized clip through tsMuxer should be fixed at no cost. ( By the way, I hope they fixed these bugs, as I have not tried VMS 11 yet).
AVCHD has been around for about 5 years, and no editing SW is truly functionning. I wonder how long it will take them for 3D... I would not touch it anytime soon. It is easy to advertise a functionnality of a SW, just add a button in the interface; no need that the button actually does what it is supposed to do. Beauty of marketing...
I am disappointed by Sony.
Eugenia wrote on 6/9/2011, 12:26 AM
AVCHD works as indented by Sony, at least in v11. If you want extra features, for example rewrapping without re-encoding, re-indexing them, and other advanced features that usually are found via utilities on videohelp.com, or features that create streams that don't play everywhere etc, then you won't find these in any video editing software. A video editor has to do a lot of different things, so you should not be expecting such advanced features any time soon. Instead, they focus on what the 97% of the users want, not what the advanced 3% of the users need.

The only thing that could have been fixed by Sony without much problem is supporting more bitrate on SonyAVC. But the rest, no. You're looking at the wrong solution.
Andy C wrote on 6/9/2011, 2:01 AM
Good review in the UK's PCPro magazine.
I have no interest in 3D, and CUDA handling still seems to be flaky. As good as it looks, I won't be upgrading.
pierreontheair wrote on 6/9/2011, 2:55 AM
I simply expect that my clip rendered in Sony AVC format plays normally, without sound being out of sync with video (tsMuxer fixes that). Is this an advanced feature ??

This is only one of many bugs, as you acknowledged yourself on other posts.
jetdv wrote on 6/9/2011, 6:04 AM
Don't forget audio event effects and it can now use OpenFX plugins. These are a couple major changes as well.
Eugenia wrote on 6/9/2011, 10:41 AM
>sound being out of sync with video

Well, have you tried version 11? Does it still have the bug? You see, I don't think it's fair to put down Vegas on a post about VMS 11 without first having used the trial of VMS 11.

If it still does it, move to Premiere Elements 9, the only other serious consumer editor. And open yourself to new possibilities, as well as new kinds of bugs. There's no app without bugs, especially complex apps like video editors are.