VMS11, video overlay and audio

Roberto65 wrote on 6/23/2011, 9:00 PM
I wish to know if there is a way to avoid the following behavior, which I have seen in VMS11 but could be existing in previous versions as well:

1. insert a video clip in a video track
2. insert another video clip in another video track
3. time-align the 2 video clips, i.e., they are overlayed

...what happens is that the audio part of both the video tracks are put in the same audio track, one above the other, which is a bit cumbersome when the audio shall be edited: every time I have to manually create a new audio track and move one of the two audio clips into it

I have seen a VMS Pro tutorial where it seems that overlaying two tracks automatically moves the audio clips into separated tracks.
Is it possible to do the same with VMS11 ?

Thanks

Comments

musicvid10 wrote on 6/23/2011, 9:33 PM
1) Select a clip
2) Press "U" to ungroup the audio from the video -- or--
Click the "Ignore Event Grouping" button.

That's all there is to it.
MSmart wrote on 6/23/2011, 10:02 PM
m, grouping is not what's the issue.

The behavior you're seeing exits in previous versions. Yes, it's frustrating to have to move the audio track to a new track. I haven't figured out how to prevent this behavior.
Tim L wrote on 6/26/2011, 6:21 PM
I think when dragging a media item to the timeline, a video or image asset will always go to the nearest video track, and an audio asset will always go to the nearest audio track. So normally, when you have an item that contains both video and audio, it's tough to direct them both to where you want them to go. If you drag the item to a particular video track, the associated audio simply attaches to the "top" audio track. If you try to drop on a particular audio track, the video simply attaches to the nearest video track.

This might not be exactly what you are hoping for, but the easiest way to manage things is probably to rearrange your tracks into audio-video pairs. Click and drag one of your audio track headers up and place it between two video tracks. You should now have something like this:

VIDEO-TRACK-A ======================================

AUDIO-TRACK-A ======================================

VIDEO-TRACK-B ======================================

AUDIO-TRACK-B ======================================

Now simply drag video clips and place the mouse pointer in between Video-A and Audio-A to use the top pair, or place the mouse pointer in between Video-B and Audio-B to use the bottom pair.

The stacking order of video items obviously affects the final video output, but audio tracks can be anywhere and in any order with no affect whatsoever on the audio output.

If you don't like having the Video-Audio-Video-Audio timeline order while editing, you can arrange it that way just while putting clips onto your timeline, then drag the audio track back down to its default position while editing. Moving the track one way or the other only takes seconds.
Roberto65 wrote on 6/30/2011, 12:09 PM
Thanks Tim.

By chance I found that if you copy-paste (or cut-paste) a clip into an overlay track, VMS11 automatically creates the audio track and put it underneath the overlay track.
So, another way could be to put the clip 1st in the main video track, then copy-paste (or cut-paste) in the target position inside the overlay track.