VP 21/22 - mouse bug with Close Gaps function ?

pierre-k wrote on 9/4/2024, 4:29 AM

Hi. Do you have the same problem?

If you mark events manually by clicking the mouse, the Close Gaps function is active.

f you mark events en masse by dragging the mouse, the Close Gaps function is inactive.

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Grazie wrote on 9/4/2024, 5:24 AM

Hi. Do you have the same problem?

If you mark events manually by clicking the mouse, the Close Gaps function is active.

f you mark events en masse by dragging the mouse, the Close Gaps function is inactive.

@pierre-k - Yes.

EricLNZ wrote on 9/4/2024, 6:07 AM

@pierre-k Strange. With VP21 Build 315 if you use the Normal Edit Tool to select the "Close Gaps" option is available. It's only with the Selection Edit Tool does it become greyed out as shown in your video. Bug or by design?

pierre-k wrote on 9/4/2024, 6:32 AM

Update:

1. If you only have one track and no audio events, then Close Gaps is active. If you add an extra track, Close Gaps doesn't work, or only works partially.

2. It also depends on where the playhead is.
If it is in the section where you mark events with the mouse, then Close Gaps is inactive.

Gid wrote on 9/4/2024, 9:59 AM

In all these videos above & my tests Close gaps is only available when that track is in focus with the track header highlighted grey, the track is auto highlighted when an event is clicked on to make the selection but the track doesn't get highlighted when the dotted lasso option is used.

Maybe by design as the lasso option can pick multiple events over multiple tracks & no no track gets brought into focus/highlighted header.

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pierre-k wrote on 9/4/2024, 10:42 AM

Even when the track is active, it doesn't always work as expected.
Dragging the mouse sometimes works correctly and sometimes it doesn't.


In my opinion, Close Gaps should always work with the mouse. What I mark will be done.

The current way is quite unfortunate.

relaxvideo wrote on 9/4/2024, 12:08 PM

hmm, how to set the events edge trimmer sign so big?

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relaxvideo wrote on 9/10/2024, 11:47 PM

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Gid wrote on 9/11/2024, 12:21 AM

hmm, how to set the events edge trimmer sign so big?

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@relaxvideo I don't understand the question? Which events 'edge trimmer sign' & where do you see it 'big' ?

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relaxvideo wrote on 9/11/2024, 1:19 AM

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Gid wrote on 9/11/2024, 2:01 AM

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Wolfgang S. wrote on 9/11/2024, 8:51 AM

1. If you only have one track and no audio events, then Close Gaps is active. If you add an extra track, Close Gaps doesn't work, or only works partially.

Yes, it seems to work with one track only. The audio part is moved too if auto ripple is enabled , but not if the audio part is marked. What is worser I think, is that the events after the last, marked event is not moved, even if auto ripple is enabled. But the rest works makes sense for me - gaps are closed, and that is what the function aims to do.

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relaxvideo wrote on 9/11/2024, 2:44 PM

Thx, how i didnt know about this? :)
Is it enabled by default?? Or almost a hidden, but very useful function.

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pierre-k wrote on 9/12/2024, 12:41 AM

It's hidden because the Vegas team decided to. They hide most of the useful things in the hamburger menu to make Vegas look like Adobe Premiere. I don't understand this strategy.

bitman wrote on 9/12/2024, 1:50 AM
It's hidden because the Vegas team decided to. They hide most of the useful things in the hamburger menu to make Vegas look like Adobe Premiere. I don't understand this strategy.

@pierre-k I do, and I like the hamburger menu (and real hamburgers), I like the flexibility a hamburger menu gives without cluttering the user interface with things you do not use on a regular basis. A cleaner and leaner UI also avoids clicking the wrong item by mistake.

Another approach without a hamburger menu would be to have a main toggle between "expert/Advanced" and "basic", with "expert/advanced" having everything UI wise enabled, and "basic" for a clean UI for quick or beginners editing like other software programs sometimes do. This all or nothing approach however, is not as flexible as a hamburger menu.

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EricLNZ wrote on 9/12/2024, 5:06 AM

I like the hamburger menu (and real hamburgers), I like the flexibility a hamburger menu gives without cluttering the user interface with things you do not use on a regular basis. A cleaner and leaner UI also avoids clicking the wrong item by mistake

Well said @bitman I agree.

pierre-k wrote on 9/12/2024, 5:33 AM

great. Let's get back to the original topic.