Hi, just want to report and maybe get some help with the 2 problems of 4k60p HEVC files from Iphones.
1. Its adding 3 blank black frames at the end of each clip
2. Realtime playback is 2-3fps where VP16 im getting full steady 60fps, no matter i chance So4 or not.....
If you guys have solution to any of these please post below.
Please screenshots of the MediaInfo of the source, the projectproperties, the previewscreen plus toolbar. Also if available a short sourcefile.
Please screenshots of the MediaInfo of the source, the projectproperties, the previewscreen plus toolbar. Also if available a short sourcefile.
I have had similar issues with iPhone HEVC files in Vegas 16 and 17
When trying to transcode/export this type of file out of Vegas 17 (most recent build) I sometimes get a few random black frames
I found that I could avoid the issue by not using the GPU (RTX 2080ti card) for the export and use the MainConcept export instead
Project Properties
File Properties
Format : MPEG-4
Format profile : QuickTime
Codec ID : qt 0000.00 (qt )
File size : 51.7 MiB
Duration : 56 s 725 ms
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 7 641 kb/s
Encoded date : UTC 2019-11-10 02:46:44
Tagged date : UTC 2019-11-10 02:47:41
Writing library : Apple QuickTime
com.apple.quicktime.locatio : +38.9049-077.0494+028.454/
com.apple.quicktime.make : Apple
com.apple.quicktime.model : iPhone X
com.apple.quicktime.softwar : 13.1.3
com.apple.quicktime.creatio : 2019-11-09T21:46:43-0500
Video
ID : 1
Format : HEVC
Format/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile : Main@L4@Main
Codec ID : hvc1
Codec ID/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding
Duration : 56 s 725 ms
Bit rate : 7 524 kb/s
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Variable
Frame rate : 30.000 FPS
Minimum frame rate : 30.000 FPS
Maximum frame rate : 31.579 FPS
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.121
Stream size : 50.9 MiB (98%)
Title : Core Media Video
Encoded date : UTC 2019-11-10 02:46:44
Tagged date : UTC 2019-11-10 02:47:41
Color range : Limited
Color primaries : BT.709
Transfer characteristics : BT.709
Matrix coefficients : BT.709
Codec configuration box : hvcC
Audio
ID : 2
Format : AAC LC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity
Codec ID : mp4a-40-2
Duration : 56 s 725 ms
Source duration : 56 s 796 ms
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 100 kb/s
Channel(s) : 1 channel
Channel layout : C
Sampling rate : 44.1 kHz
Frame rate : 43.066 FPS (1024 SPF)
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 694 KiB (1%)
Source stream size : 695 KiB (1%)
Title : Core Media Audio
Encoded date : UTC 2019-11-10 02:46:44
Tagged date : UTC 2019-11-10 02:47:41
Other #1
Type : meta
Duration : 56 s 725 ms
Bit rate mode : Variable
Other #2
Type : meta
Duration : 56 s 725 ms
Bit rate mode : Constant
In this particular case I was using the most recent version of Neat Video 5 on this video clip when exporting but I have seen black frames without it as well.
Sometimes restarting Vegas will resolve the issue
for me its every single file in a timeline, last 3 frames are black, premiere pro, no black frames, transcoding it in handbrake no black frames, only VP 16/17.
General
Name: IMG_0314.MOV
Folder: C:\1 Channel Videos\11-12-19 Home Goods
Type: Intel HEVC
Size: 455.47 MB (466,396,541 bytes)
Created: Thursday, November 14, 2019, 10:18:21 AM
Modified: Tuesday, November 12, 2019, 5:40:37 PM
Accessed: Thursday, November 14, 2019, 10:18:36 AM
Attributes: Archive
Streams
Video: 00:00:54.183, 60.000 fps progressive, 3840x2160x32, HEVC
Audio: 00:00:54.178, 44,100 Hz, Stereo, AAC
ACID information
ACID chunk: no
Stretch chunk: no
Stretch list: no
Stretch info2: no
Beat markers: no
Detected beats: no
Other metadata
Regions/markers: no
Command markers: no
Media manager
Media tags: no
Plug-In
Name: mxhevcplug.dll
Folder: C:\Program Files\VEGAS\VEGAS Pro 17.0\FileIO Plug-Ins\mxhevcplug
Format: Intel HEVC
Version: Version 1.0 (Build 8532)
Company: MAGIX Computer Products Intl. Co.
Another issue with different hardware, this is on my laptop with nvidia 2060mobile
with hardware decoding turned on in File I/O and Nvidia im getting random BLACK frames in the video in both timeline playback/preview at all quality settings as well as final render. If i turn off Hardware decoding no problem, this is with latest nvidia studio drivers. please give me some help as i was ready to buy nvidia card for my computer but if this is the problem then its worthless. thank you
Another issue with different hardware, this is on my laptop with nvidia 2060mobile
with hardware decoding turned on in File I/O and Nvidia im getting random BLACK frames in the video in both timeline playback/preview at all quality settings as well as final render. If i turn off Hardware decoding no problem, this is with latest nvidia studio drivers. please give me some help as i was ready to buy nvidia card for my computer but if this is the problem then its worthless. thank you
I just updated to the most recent Studio Driver and the black frame issue seems even worse now with the iPhone X footage
Plug-In
Name: so4compoundplug.dll
Folder: C:\Program Files\VEGAS\VEGAS Pro 17.0\FileIO Plug-Ins\so4compoundplug
Format: AVC
Version: Version 1.0 (Build 8532)
Company: MAGIX Computer Products Intl. Co.
Source Footage
https://www.dropbox.com/s/75jpxobq283gnsb/IMG_9721.MOV?dl=0
This is what I am seeing in the preview and the rendered version
https://www.dropbox.com/s/x1z278xmsdtwe52/VID_20191120_121217579.mp4?dl=0
Restarting the program seems to fix it but I can't keep rebooting Vegas every time I add a new clip to the timeline
Yep thats it, but the problem is not even just a realtime preview, it renders it the same way with black frames, have you tried regular non studio drivers?
Another issue with different hardware, this is on my laptop with nvidia 2060mobile
with hardware decoding turned on in File I/O and Nvidia im getting random BLACK frames in the video in both timeline playback/preview at all quality settings as well as final render. If i turn off Hardware decoding no problem, this is with latest nvidia studio drivers. please give me some help as i was ready to buy nvidia card for my computer but if this is the problem then its worthless. thank you
I just updated to the most recent Studio Driver and the black frame issue seems even worse now with the iPhone X footage
Plug-In
Name: so4compoundplug.dll
Folder: C:\Program Files\VEGAS\VEGAS Pro 17.0\FileIO Plug-Ins\so4compoundplug
Format: AVC
Version: Version 1.0 (Build 8532)
Company: MAGIX Computer Products Intl. Co.Source Footage
https://www.dropbox.com/s/75jpxobq283gnsb/IMG_9721.MOV?dl=0
This is what I am seeing in the preview and the rendered version
https://www.dropbox.com/s/x1z278xmsdtwe52/VID_20191120_121217579.mp4?dl=0
Restarting the program seems to fix it but I can't keep rebooting Vegas every time I add a new clip to the timeline
Yep thats it, but the problem is not even just a realtime preview, it renders it the same way with black frames, have you tried regular non studio drivers?
Another issue with different hardware, this is on my laptop with nvidia 2060mobile
with hardware decoding turned on in File I/O and Nvidia im getting random BLACK frames in the video in both timeline playback/preview at all quality settings as well as final render. If i turn off Hardware decoding no problem, this is with latest nvidia studio drivers. please give me some help as i was ready to buy nvidia card for my computer but if this is the problem then its worthless. thank you
I just updated to the most recent Studio Driver and the black frame issue seems even worse now with the iPhone X footage
Plug-In
Name: so4compoundplug.dll
Folder: C:\Program Files\VEGAS\VEGAS Pro 17.0\FileIO Plug-Ins\so4compoundplug
Format: AVC
Version: Version 1.0 (Build 8532)
Company: MAGIX Computer Products Intl. Co.Source Footage
https://www.dropbox.com/s/75jpxobq283gnsb/IMG_9721.MOV?dl=0
This is what I am seeing in the preview and the rendered version
https://www.dropbox.com/s/x1z278xmsdtwe52/VID_20191120_121217579.mp4?dl=0
Restarting the program seems to fix it but I can't keep rebooting Vegas every time I add a new clip to the timeline
I mentioned that the black frames show up in the render
I have not pulled out the studio driver yet
I was told that the Studio Driver was optimized for Adobe and Vegas
I had noticed the black frames with HEVC in After Effects as well and it seems to be a known issue
Do you happen to have this extension installed
https://www.semw-software.com/en/extensions/
I wonder if it could be a conflict between the extension and the recent Vegas build??
I updated to the most recent Studio Driver and the black frame issue seems even worse now with the iPhone X footage
Plug-In
Name: so4compoundplug.dll
Folder: C:\Program Files\VEGAS\VEGAS Pro 17.0\FileIO Plug-Ins\so4compoundplug
Format: AVC
Version: Version 1.0 (Build 8532)
Company: MAGIX Computer Products Intl. Co.Source Footage
https://www.dropbox.com/s/75jpxobq283gnsb/IMG_9721.MOV?dl=0
This is what I am seeing in the preview and the rendered version
https://www.dropbox.com/s/x1z278xmsdtwe52/VID_20191120_121217579.mp4?dl=0
Restarting the program seems to fix it but I can't keep rebooting Vegas every time I add a new clip to the timeline
Here no problem on desktop from signature, with the same property settings.
Videosettings in Options/Preferences and I/O settings
Look how it plays
But I can't render in HEVC FHD 30fps, what (customized) rendertemplate did you use to render? Screenshot?
I updated to the most recent Studio Driver and the black frame issue seems even worse now with the iPhone X footage
Plug-In
Name: so4compoundplug.dll
Folder: C:\Program Files\VEGAS\VEGAS Pro 17.0\FileIO Plug-Ins\so4compoundplug
Format: AVC
Version: Version 1.0 (Build 8532)
Company: MAGIX Computer Products Intl. Co.Source Footage
https://www.dropbox.com/s/75jpxobq283gnsb/IMG_9721.MOV?dl=0
This is what I am seeing in the preview and the rendered version
https://www.dropbox.com/s/x1z278xmsdtwe52/VID_20191120_121217579.mp4?dl=0
Restarting the program seems to fix it but I can't keep rebooting Vegas every time I add a new clip to the timeline
Here no problem on desktop from signature, with the same property settings.
Videosettings in Options/Preferences and I/O settings
Look how it plays
But I can't render in HEVC FHD 30fps, what (customized) rendertemplate did you use to render? Screenshot?
Your Dynamic RAM is zero mine is set to 350MB so maybe that is why it plays okay for you??
As I said previously it plays okay for a bit after re-starting Vegas but the random black frames do pop again so maybe if you play it a few times the black frames may show up on your system
You asked
"But I can't render in HEVC FHD 30fps, what (customized) rendertemplate did you use to render? Screenshot?"
In regards to the iphone footage the phone shoots at 30FPS no 29.97 FPS
When I rendered out I just went with 29.97
Your Dynamic RAM is zero mine is set to 350MB so maybe that is why it plays okay for you??
Don't think so, because I don't use that option in Tools (Shift+B)
As I said previously it plays okay for a bit after re-starting Vegas but the random black frames do pop again so maybe if you play it a few times the black frames may show up on your system
No, not seen also not the first play or the 10th play
When I rendered out I just went with 29.97
I now did that also and this is the result of therender and playing the rendered file.
Your Dynamic RAM is zero mine is set to 350MB so maybe that is why it plays okay for you??
Don't think so, because I don't use that option in Tools (Shift+B)
As I said previously it plays okay for a bit after re-starting Vegas but the random black frames do pop again so maybe if you play it a few times the black frames may show up on your system
No, not seen also not the first play or the 10th play
When I rendered out I just went with 29.97
I now did that also and this is the result of therender and playing the rendered file.
j-v what drivers are you using for nvidia?
It's all in my signature
Your Dynamic RAM is zero mine is set to 350MB so maybe that is why it plays okay for you??
Don't think so, because I don't use that option in Tools (Shift+B)
As I said previously it plays okay for a bit after re-starting Vegas but the random black frames do pop again so maybe if you play it a few times the black frames may show up on your system
No, not seen also not the first play or the 10th play
When I rendered out I just went with 29.97
I now did that also and this is the result of therender and playing the rendered file.
j-v what drivers are you using for nvidia?
On my system I have this Studio Driver
DirectX version: 12.0
GPU processor: GeForce RTX 2080 Ti
Driver version: 441.28
Yess..... and ???
There are a lot more settings important than only which GPU and the driverversion also when they have their infuence and goal. But when other settings, I don't know which you use, not are set right, the GPU and driver cannot give their best.
That are Windows- and Vegas settings.
any help would be very helpful ! anyone? Thank you