Wave Hammer, Surround vs Stereo Vegas Pro 21-108

john_dennis wrote on 8/16/2023, 9:50 AM

Some time in the history of Vegas Pro there were two Wave Hammer fX, Stereo and Surround. I must have used the stereo version as I worked old projects since I was greeted with this...

... when I opened a project this morning.

If the two-channel version is gone forever, could someone from Magix just map it to the surround sound version and stop annoying me before I've finished my first cup of coffee?

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rraud wrote on 8/16/2023, 10:12 AM

If you uninstalled Sound Forge, it may have been removed.
There is a Wave Hammer 2 that is VST, but I do not think that is included w/Vegas.

btw, Wave Hammer is a Direct X plug-in.

john_dennis wrote on 8/16/2023, 10:14 AM

I just looked for Sound Forge and it is not installed since this is a fresh system image built just for Vegas Pro 21.

mark-y wrote on 8/16/2023, 11:00 AM

I have Sound Forge 13. TBH, I haven't used Wave Hammer much since Toneboosters Barricade 4 was release.

john_dennis wrote on 8/16/2023, 12:12 PM

@mark-y said: "TBH, I haven't used Wave Hammer much since Toneboosters Barricade 4 was release."

Noted.

I looked at more than ten projects from that era and found no other projects where I used a compressor. Wouldn't you know it, I stumbled on the one that did. Generally, the camera that I used at the time compressed the audio too much, already.

RogerS wrote on 8/16/2023, 9:54 PM

I have Sound Forge 13. TBH, I haven't used Wave Hammer much since Toneboosters Barricade 4 was release.

 

Do you find that Barricade 4 works right in VEGAS for you? Here the window is cut off on both my systems. @mark-y

mark-y wrote on 8/16/2023, 10:04 PM

Yes.

RogerS wrote on 8/16/2023, 10:12 PM

Is that the VST3? I'm having no luck with the VST2.

rraud wrote on 8/17/2023, 4:17 PM

the (Sound Forge plug-in window) is cut off on both my systems

Not to go off-topic but FYI, there has been a display issue with Sound Forge since v16 running third-party 32 bit VST-2 plug-ins.. which causes most of the plug-ins' GUI to be hidden. The Magix devs are aware of the problem but it has yet to be fixed.. I am not sure the same issue exists with Vegas 20 or 21, but will check it out ASAP.

Barricade (and LoudMax) are good transparent brick-wall limiters. I prefer WaveHammer for most music projects due to the vintage hardware limiter sound (1176 FET),

mark-y wrote on 8/17/2023, 9:19 PM

@rraud Thank you!

I chose Barricade for one reason, the ATSC A85 / EBU R128 monitoring. It's a big deal for me because of musician's hearing loss, which can be painful.

If Wavehammer had such capability, I would probably be using it more, it is a fine limiter / compressor.

rraud wrote on 8/18/2023, 9:32 AM

I chose Barricade for one reason, the ATSC A85 / EBU R128 monitoring

Vegas has a loudness meter available as well, or a third-party meter plug-in can be added to an output bus. There are many ATSC A85 / EBU R128 meter plug-ins available (free and otherwise). For mastering, I usually use Sound Forge Pro's 'Statistics' tool which calculates the pertinent loudness values in seconds (depending on the length of the song or program). 'Integrated' being the most important for broadcast submissions

mark-y wrote on 8/18/2023, 10:15 AM

 

+1.