way ot: door bell...

ushere wrote on 2/21/2009, 8:53 PM
i know, what am i doing asking such a question here - simple, i can't find an answer anywhere, and since the combined brain power here has solved all my other problems....

my wife's studio is 75 mtrs from the house, and surrounded by trees. it's impossible to see if anyone arrives at the house. there is power there (i use eop adaptors to get the net there - pretty good for the price), but have yet to think of a way of getting some simple door / alarm rigged that can be pressed at the house and sounded at the studio.

bluetooth / wireless aren't powerful enough, and my suggestion of two tin cans and a piece of string didn't go down too well.

any suggestions most welcome indeed.....

leslie

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musicvid10 wrote on 2/21/2009, 9:26 PM
Is there a phone extension line running to the studio?

Chances are there's an unused pair in the line that could easily be wired as a conventional pushbutton / transformer / doorbell.
farss wrote on 2/21/2009, 10:01 PM
I recall someone I knew had a battery operated wireless doorbell that seemed to have a long range, have you actually tried one of these things.

I be careful using a spare pair in a phone line, not exactly legal down here unless it's approved gear.

One of those wireless 2.4GHz video links will easily cover 100M, the one I've got managed that distance and several brick walls without problem.

A dog would also be good.

Bob.
Serena wrote on 2/21/2009, 10:27 PM
You haven't said that you can't run bell wire to the studio, but that seems to be assumed. Those wireless door bells work well, but I haven't tested max range.
ushere wrote on 2/21/2009, 10:28 PM
musicvid - there's a phone line to the studio - but it's now buried under concrete at one end with just the active pair coming through (thanks telstra!), and as bob points out, you don't mess with the gorilla supplying your connection to the outside world.....

bob - i'm thinking about one of those battery operated buzzers, but i would dearly like a system that comprises 1 'buzzer' and 2 x 'door bells / chimes' (one for the house, the other for the studio), but none of them seem that flexible. hmp / arlec have models, but i'll have to find a wholesaler who knows what he's talking about (ha!).

the wireless video link sounds (looks) interesting - any links?

we have three very large, very active dogs who bark at everything, including passing butterflies. keeps us trim running around to find out what they're going on about!

thanks

leslie

serena - thanks too. am going to give a wireless doorbell a whirl, but i'd like two 'stations' with it as i explained above.

running another cable is out (see concrete above!), but what about intercom over the mains? but would that then interfere with the eop setup?

and no! i'm not going to install an outside terminal so people can email us that they're at the front door ;-)
farss wrote on 2/21/2009, 11:03 PM
"the wireless video link sounds (looks) interesting - any links?"

Sure,
I bought all my bits from www.allthings.com.au in Adelaide.

They've got some high gain aerials that would get you a few KMs over open ground, 100M piece of cake really.

Bob.
Robert W wrote on 2/22/2009, 1:28 AM
If the existing phone cable that runs under the ground is in a conduit (which I suspect it is) then there may be threads in there to pull through additional cables.
ushere wrote on 2/22/2009, 2:42 AM
thanks bob, will look into it....

robert - we dug a trench, laid water, and power and a conduit with multicore (incl. 75ohm co-ax) etc., and telephone.....

1st our builder did a lovely job of channelling the necessary power to the board, tel to a wall socket, water to the rain water tank, then proceded to 'waterproof' the whole trench end with silicon. unfortunately he didn't realise there was a multicore cable to be pulled up.....

2nd, at the other end, after the tel was chewed through, telstra sealed up the conduit, and then laid a concrete inspection box, that neatly sealed off the other end.

at least i now know where there's 100mts of coax and multi buried ;-(

fortunately, and why i haven't bothered doing anything is that the water, power and phone work - and if they aren't broke, i'm not going to fix 'em. (or anything else come to that).

Grazie wrote on 2/22/2009, 2:42 AM
As long as there is a "mains" circuit going to the studio,http://doorchimesuk.co.uk/catalog/index.php?cPath=22_25_27then this is what I was looking for: [/link] Like a power Ethernet adaptor.

Grazie
ushere wrote on 2/22/2009, 2:44 AM
oh you beaut grazie - just what i was looking for - all i have to do is make sure they don't interact with the eop.....

ta muchly.
Grazie wrote on 2/22/2009, 2:48 AM
Yeah. It would be a sweet solution. No friggin' with existing dodgy cables and not being certain about RF and so on. BUT, you have to be sure you have lekkie going to the studio?

The UK have taken to power Ethernets for doing all types of stuff. It was just a thought that maybe this does exist for door chimes - yeah? Anyways, really DO check that this WILL be solution!

Grazie
ushere wrote on 2/22/2009, 4:00 AM
no problem with that - i specifically put a spur in my studio that's on the same circuit as the studio so i can run the belkin eop adaptors (btw, the belkin work well, but two out of 4 adaptors were doa - belkin replaced with no hassle, but...).

interestingly enough, the eop's work on any circuit in the house, so that came as a pleasant surprise....

i've just emailed them re compatibility with existing eop....

again grazie,

many thanks.....
farss wrote on 2/22/2009, 4:35 AM
If you've already got ethernet between the buildings then maybe the problem is very easily solved as that provides communication between the two places already, no need for another signal running over the power lines. I'll ask in another forum, might take a while to get an answer that's all.

Bob.
richard-courtney wrote on 2/22/2009, 6:00 AM
In the states, elevators must have an automatic dialing phone.

How about one at the door? Program number to studio phone or cellular phone.

JJKizak wrote on 2/22/2009, 6:26 AM
At one time our security alarm people were planning to use our electric feeds to our barn to carry the electronic data and they later said it was not reliable for some reason. Of course this was about 12 years ago.
JJK
lynn1102 wrote on 2/22/2009, 5:39 PM
You can also get intercomm systems that run thru the house wireing. The one i have has a call button each way and intercomm both ways. Radio Shack about #39.00.

Lynn