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doctorfish wrote on 2/2/2004, 3:14 PM
You could select tracks 2 through the end and movwe them all together but this will make it hard to set the pause to a specific length. It shouldn't be too hard or time consuming (unless you have a 99 track CD) just to type in the pause time in the track list. That way you can set it to exactly the time you want.

Dave
kbruff wrote on 2/3/2004, 10:44 AM
Well -- once again CDA5 missed the boat on that feature as well.

In Nero you can simply a click in an input box and apply, normalization as well as the removal of the 2 second gap, and all of the tracks will be affected.

I use CDA5 and I wish that those features were present.
Instead you have to manual adjust the time gap yourself.

Oh well,
Kevin
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rpmbassman wrote on 2/3/2004, 11:33 AM
Well, you could change the default pause time. This should change all the pauses to whatever you have chaged it to.

Go to options/preferences/editing: "Default time between CD tracks (seconds)"

Change it to what you want. Then select all tracks; point your mouse over the time between tracks; right-mouse click; click on "set to default pause time".
MarkSF wrote on 2/3/2004, 12:25 PM
Yes, that's the way I had been doing this for years on my Mac/Jam system.

I was hoping for something a bit more streamlined, such as selecting the whole column, then perhaps right-clicking and bringing up a means of editing all times at once.
Rednroll wrote on 2/3/2004, 12:42 PM
You could also use the "Track List" editor and edit the "pause" time between tracks there.
MarkSF wrote on 2/3/2004, 12:54 PM
Yes, that's exactly how I've been doing it....one pause at a time.

I'd like to be able to select the whole column and edit all the times at once....so I guess this goes into the category of another "feature request". (Does anyone from Sony read this stuff, or should I be directing these somewhere else?).
rpmbassman wrote on 2/3/2004, 1:28 PM
I don't know what could be more streamlined than what I suggested. You select all tracks and do a simple click to update all the pause times simulatneously...

What could be easier?
kbruff wrote on 2/3/2004, 5:58 PM
Hello Rpmbassman

Considering...

"Well, you could change the default pause time. This should change all the pauses to whatever you have chaged it to.

Go to options/preferences/editing: "Default time between CD tracks (seconds)"

Change it to what you want. Then select all tracks; point your mouse over the time between tracks; right-mouse click; click on "set to default pause time"."

and

"I don't know what could be more streamlined than what I suggested. You select all tracks and do a simple click to update all the pause times simulatneously...

What could be easier?"

Correct me if I wrong. If I had lets say 50 different tracks how could I adjust the gap to zero seconds, without having to manually reduce the time interval in the track listing or by right clicking at each location and adjusting it that point.

Thanks,
Kevin
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Rednroll wrote on 2/4/2004, 7:55 AM
I understand where the problem is coming from, since I use Nero. Within Nero you can select all the tracks, and then select "properties". You can enter your pause time within that window and all tracks that are selected get updated with that pause time. You should be able to do a similar type of thing in CDA, but you can't. After all you can do a copy and paste of the actual pause time in the track list, and you can select multiple tracks in the Track list window. So why can't you do a "copy" and then multiple select "paste" into CDA pause times? I have to agree, this is something simple, like common copy and paste functionality, and they just missed the boat again on CD Architect v5.0.
rpmbassman wrote on 2/4/2004, 10:52 AM
Well, again, I thought I answered that, but maybe not clearly enough.

You first change the default to 0 seconds by clicking on "Options", then clicking on "Preferences". You select the "Editing" tab in the window that appears. In that window, you will find an entry for the "Default time between CD tracks (seconds)". Set it to 0 seconds. Click "OK" to set te default and close the window. (By the way, don't forget to set the default back once your project is done because, going forward, new sessions will use this default.)

Next, under the main wave window showing your graphical waveforms, you should see the track window. If you don't see this running track list going along the bottom of your graphic waves, then put your mouse pointer just under the transport buttons on the seperator between window sections and left-click-drag the window downward until they appear.

Now, click on the first track name in this newly appearing running track list below your graphical waveforms. Next shift-left-click the last track name in the same running track list. This should select all the tracks in your project.

Next right-mouse-click in the area of the pause (little space) between any two of those tracks (again, in the running track list), and click on "set to default pause time".

This should update ALL of the pauses between tracks to 0 seconds (the default).

I hope I've made it clear this time. And, I hope I am not reading your problem incorrectly.
Rednroll wrote on 2/4/2004, 12:12 PM
Thanks for the detailed work around. I have to consider this a work around though, because it is not so intuiative. Having to go into the menus and edit the default spacing preference for simple editing is a hastle and too many steps to do for what should be a simple copy and paste operation. All Sony apps usually follow Windows copy and paste methods, so I would consider this an oversight on this functionality. It's good to know that there is a work around though.
kbruff wrote on 2/4/2004, 3:14 PM
Hello -

Thanks that was helpful.

I especially enjoyed your reminder to reset the default time interval back to zero seconds.
I suppose I would have to repeat those steps for different time interval that I desire, for each CD that I am authoring (usually 0, 1, and 2 seond intervals are used).

Well appreciated,
Kevin
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farss wrote on 2/17/2004, 1:59 PM
I've just done 24 masters, all with 0 second gap and that part was drop dead easy. Set the gap to 0 in preferences and as I add the tracks to each CD the gap is 0 as specified.
Don't now how much easier it could be.
Trick is of course to set it to 0 BEFORE you start adding the tracks
Rednroll wrote on 2/17/2004, 2:32 PM
Farss,
Yes for your particular project this is a no brainer. The problem is working with clients that have a particular spacing between songs in their head, but don't know what that time is until they hear it. For instance, the default spacing was usually 2 seconds between songs, which I've used for the longest time and did exactly as you did. As time progressed I've found many clients consider this to be too long, and say there's too much dead space between tracks, causing to take away from the flow of the CD. So I may start out with 2 seconds, between all the tracks, and then there may be a couple that have 0 seconds, due to intro's and the sort that are suppose to run together with no gap, but have their own indivual track ID. So when it comes to the final feel adjustments for the client, you need to figure out what spacing works for them. After you've found that timing out, for one song, it would be nice to be able to select the rest of the songs and just update them all at once. This is just not as user friendly as it could be.
farss wrote on 2/18/2004, 12:13 PM
Red,
I see what you mean and it coould be a pain in the butt. I think all that happens is as you insert a track the code looks at the desired gap, if any and first inserts that much silence before adding the track..

As there's nothing special about the silence (gap) in the track there's no easy way for the software to go back and change it. Not an uncommon problem in how software is written.
hrasco wrote on 3/28/2004, 2:34 AM
Granted, it takes a bunch of clicks and keystrokes. Another way is to set the default pause as desribed previously and then select "Tools" and then "Conform Tracks to Default Pause Time". Bang, all at once. Just watch the times change on your track list.
Rednroll wrote on 4/1/2004, 7:09 AM
Also as previously stated, "The problem is working with clients that have a particular spacing between songs in their head, but don't know what that time is until they hear it. "

Bang, your way doesn't work, unless you know what that spacing is ahead of time.