What about HD in V5

Hunter wrote on 5/7/2004, 9:52 PM
So far I've read one post remotely involving HD and V5, some thing about transport stream and exporting. (I think)
Anyone using V5 for HD editing, exporting or anything? Will V5 connect to a DVHS deck for PTT or capture from DVHS? What does V5 do with HD that V4 will not? I'm still kicking it with V4 for the moment and haven't installed trial due to the post I've read here.

Hunter

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RBartlett wrote on 5/7/2004, 11:38 PM
I think the only "HD" addition that V5 has over V4 (today) is the support of SD acquisition from HDCAM decks/cameras.

V4 can already acquire, render to an intermediate format, edit with all the filters and transition, and render back out as a transport stream.

Leaving you with V4 and V5 needing a separate app to bring in the video and send it back out. Maybe you can get the KDDI software to help you there. It supports JVCs original two (now called) HDV cameras and the HD DVHS deck. I think you may even be able to use the Vegas properties to replace the capture program VidCap with the KDDI tool, albeit without any integration with the media pool.

Perhaps more will follow for V5 when Sony release their HDV 1080 camera?
Unless the 3rd parties come along some more (Connect HD converts to an intermediate codec on-the-fly saving the render phase).
John_Cline wrote on 5/8/2004, 12:21 AM
Main Concept has released a really interesting MPEG editing plug-in for Premiere Pro that will allow frame-accurate "lossless" editing of MPEG2, HDV, MicroMV and Transport Streams. Perhaps they are working with Sony on a similar release for Vegas. I just got it recently and it really works.

MainConcept MPEG Pro

John

(Yes, I'm a bit of a traitor, I own a copy of Premiere Pro, but I still do the vast majority of my editing in Vegas.)
taliesin wrote on 5/8/2004, 4:16 AM
There is a HDV plugin for vegas for several months now:

--> www.cineform.com/news/rel-ConnectHD.htm

--> www.cineform.com/products/ConnectHD.htm

Marco
B_JM wrote on 5/8/2004, 4:44 AM
i am using v5 for HD --
John_Cline wrote on 5/8/2004, 5:26 AM
Yes, I am aware of the Cineform HDV plug-in, however, it takes the HDV video and converts it to its own "visually lossless" format (at around 100mbps) where it can be edited in real-time, but for final output, all the footage must be recompressed back to MPEG2 (or whatever format you use to archive or distribute.) This results in a quality hit as is illustrated in Cineforms own technology "white paper."

Cineform New Approach.pdf

Editing MPEG2 footage in Vegas has always required recompressing all the footage on output whether it had actually been modified or not.

In a "cuts only" editing situation, the Main Concept MPEG Pro plug-in performs "smart rendering" where the original MPEG2 video is simply copied to the new, edited file. Of course, any footage which has been altered in some way gets recompressed. This is exactly the way Vegas treats DV footage. The Mpeg Pro plug-in is the first reasonable solution of which I am aware that treats MPEG2 compressed video the same way.

John
JJKizak wrote on 5/8/2004, 5:34 AM
B_JM: Maybe you can expound on some of your secrets.

JJK
taliesin wrote on 5/8/2004, 5:34 AM
True. I missed that point.

Marco