What do you keep just in case

OldTimer wrote on 8/8/2003, 2:23 AM

So you have finally made your big project & you have whittled your original 5 tapes down to maybe just over one. You may even have a copy on a DVD or SVCD etc. Just what else are most people keeping besides possibly another finished copy of the project on tape? I'm assuming that all of the unusable crap has now gone would you possibly also keep a copy on tape of the final tape except that this one would be without music, titles & transitions.

I was just wondering what most people keep.

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Grazie wrote on 8/8/2003, 2:48 AM

Firstly, answer the question - why would you want to keep anything after finishing a project?

Secondly, list all the reasons and for what future reason you would want to keep stuff?

See what I mean?

Certain projects have a way of determining what and how parts of its anatomy wish to be "cryo-geneticised" ! Some body parts are definatley invaluable, and are worth keeping. You will be the best person to decide these surgical decisions.

Others will jump in here with their own approaches.

Hope this helps,

Grazie

Grazie wrote on 8/8/2003, 2:54 AM

Okay, to answer more,

1 - Presently I keep all my miniDV rushes/footage - £2.40 a tape no problem

2 - I keep all veggies. Unless they are truly very very draft experiments

3 - Mixed media? Tough one this . . . get back to on this one ...

4 - 1 x miniDV master; 1 x VHS tape

5 - Presently I don't burn DVDs - aint got a burner - yet! But DVDers will import here what they do.

Look, I'm an hoader. Can't bear to tosh anything away - bit of a BagMan.

Another thing you could do is to do a search here on "archiving" lots of solutions, different ways of viewing this age old problem/issue. . .

Hope this helps

Grazie

PeterWright wrote on 8/8/2003, 3:26 AM

Yeah, I'm also pretty "retentive" like Grazie.

I keep all my camera tapes, plus two MiniDV edit masters, plus at least one copy of the DVD version (I do a DVD version of everything now, even if they don't ask!)

Also keep, on a CD, the veg file plus any "non video" stuff, like stills, music etc.

And for the last couple of months, I've also been making two DVD duplication masters, which can be used for making multiple VHS dubs.

Grazie wrote on 8/8/2003, 3:40 AM

Yup, forgot about the "Also keep, on a CD, the veg file plus any "non video" stuff, like stills, music etc." - this is excellent idea. Then they are OFF the pc or any crashable drives - yeah?

Don't forget, if you keep the veg with its VidCap profiles it will go get your footage from the miniDV tape. THIS has saved mne on a couple of occasions - yeah?

Grazie

mvpvideos2007 wrote on 8/8/2003, 12:24 PM

I keep a minidv master as well as a DVD master. I can't tell you hom many customers have called back, sometimes severals years down the road for extra copies, and I have them:)

Jsnkc wrote on 8/8/2003, 12:40 PM

I tell the client I can keep whatever they want, but it will cost them more for archival discs and tapes. Usually they will say, ah nevermind you can just delete it once we have the final edit master and sometimes a backup master.

slambubba wrote on 8/8/2003, 4:32 PM

are the .sfvidcap files needed if capture tape was used with scene detection?

Zulqar-Cheema wrote on 8/8/2003, 5:19 PM

I keep all my footage, today it's for editing tommorrow it's in the way but after ten years it's history & look at all the history programmes that may want your footage.

You may also want to use certain footage in a new video from the rushes

I have stuff gong back to 1982 in video and 1978 in cine.

filmy wrote on 8/8/2003, 7:58 PM

If you can - save it all.

I have said this before but here is a perfect example. Home movie, home video, feature film..whatever. Scenerio - 1998, a scene in Manhattan. Your family in front of tall buildings or the actors in front of tall buildings or just the downtown skyline. You've cut everything, transfered your film over to video...tossed everything you didn't want. Now it is September 11, 2001. How baddly do you want back all the footage you tossed that had, or may have had, those 'tall buildings' in frame?

Ok - so that is a bit extreme but my point is that you never now what would come in handy at some point. A lot of people have a tendancy to save any sort of establishing shots, skylines, cars...anything without indetifiable people in it. They toss all the outtakes of bad dialog and action. Other people save everything. It is a personal choice as much as it is a choice made by how much material you have and how you will store it. While I have not seen it yet I read a great piece on how the new Led Zepplin DVD was created. Among the interesting facts were the outtakes from the MSG concert that was filmed for The Song Remains the Same. The "outtakes" they had to work with were all 15 seconds and under...and they used them to cut together an entire song. But the point is...someone kept these 15 seconds, and less, clips of film.