What do you think would be a good addition to Vegas?

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bgc wrote on 9/17/2003, 1:18 PM
Hi Arnar,
I don't agree that Vegas isn't a proper mix environment. I mix exclusively in Vegas and don't find that it limits me in any way (in fact with the new FX and buss automation I've got more options and possibilities than time!).
You suggested that it needs a "proper mixer". Do you mean something like the "virtual mixing board" that PT has? I personally don't like that environment at all and much perfer the visual, envelope based method that Vegas has. But then I'm not one of those people that must have a fader under my finger (or mouse) to mix. Call me new school.
As for your other DAW essentials, I really don't need track meters (if a tracks clipping I can hear it) and the routing is fine for me now, but others would like more flexible routing so I'm non-committal.
B.
heinz3110 wrote on 9/17/2003, 2:24 PM
-I want a virtuel mixing environment like uh..an analog deck,complete with :
-Virtual nicotine stains building up over time
-Faders dropping out because of (virtual,mind you)cookie crumbs
-Knobs that come off due to repetetive handling through the years
-Flexible routing complete with malfunctioning input jacks and such
etc,etc.

Also a Virtual Guitarist Plugin with real-life(ok,virtual real-life)wear and tear and smudges on the virtual fretboard,strings break after a period of time,so you have to do an update everytime a string breaks.

(I had a good laugh with my brother a couple of minutes ago about this "virtual" thing-this whole conversation with him went completely over the top in sillyness,as usual..YMMV ,ofcourse ;) )

Gerard.
Ben  wrote on 9/17/2003, 3:19 PM
Here's a post I made recently about features I'd like to see in Vegas:

The V4 ripple is great, but I'd like the option to make the play cursor move to where you've just edited when you ripple. This would be particulary useful for speech editing, music editing, etc. Here's what I mean:

- You highlight the portion of an event you want to get rid of.
- You hit delete.
- Currently, the cursor stays where it is. So, to play the edit you've just made, you have to move the cursor to that point in the timeline.

This really slows down what should be some speedy editing jobs. An option in preferences to make the cursor move to the 'in' split point would be great, as obviously you wouldn't want this behaviour all of the time.

While I'm at it, generally the keyboard shortcuts are fine, but I'd love the ability to move, for example, split to another key, such as numberpad zero or whatever. Also, a toolbar button for split would be handy for when you want to do lazy mouse only operation.


Ben
Rednroll wrote on 9/17/2003, 3:30 PM
"but I'd love the ability to move, for example, split to another key"

I had this exact same idea back in the V3 development days. User definable keys. Actually, my suggestion was more on the lines of Macro keys, where you could assign keystrokes to one key, which would also cover your suggestion. For now the next best thing is to get an external shuttle control, similar to the countour shuttle pro. With this device you can assign keys and macros to buttons on that device.
Ben  wrote on 9/17/2003, 3:30 PM
Another thing - I'd like a preview button on the right-click event properties dialog, where you configure your time stretching/pitch change attributes. You're trying to get a stretch to sound right by trying out the different algorithms, and each time you have to go back to the timeline and solo the event to hear the changes. So, loads of keystrokes just to preview your changes. Same is true if you're trying to adjust the pitch. A simple preview button here would be great.

While I'm on the subject, I'll resurrect another old post of mine requesting a feature (or more precisely the return of a feature):

I really loved the 'autofade for voice' and 'general purpose' timestretching algorithms in Vegas 3. Of course, the Vegas 4 options are sonically superior and much more useful for the majority of material.

But, but, but... those two algorithms really did it for me! While not so good for most stretching jobs, they were <great> for FX, especially drums. For dance production, I tend to bring loops I've made elsewhere into Vegas and edit the hell out of them, specifically creating cool fills, etc. If you never stretched a snare using the 'general purpose' algorithm in VV3, and you make dance music, you're missed out. With it, you could easily create those cool drum and bass style fills, and using using the algorithm with pitching shifting also created some fantastic effects.

'Autofade for voice' also had its uses, and used to its extemities also created some good FX on various sources.

Obviously the introduction of the Forge-like algorithms in V4 is a step forward, but I plead with the Vegas developers to put the VV3 options back as well - especially the two above. They could have '(Vegas 3)' by them, so people realised why they were there or could be labelled something like 'Special FX 1', 'Special FX 2', etc. Another argument for this is that I've realised a load of VV3 projects of mine now sound very strange in Vegas 4, as the stretching on events defaults to one of the new options.

Anyway, apologies for the long post. Am I the only one who finds a use for these?

Thanks
Ben
Ben  wrote on 9/17/2003, 3:34 PM
<For now the next best thing is to get an external shuttle control, similar to the countour shuttle pro. With this device you can assign keys and macros to buttons on that device>

Red - I've actually got a Contour Shuttle Pro but funnily enough I actually find I'm generally faster mainly using the keyboard, as there aren't enought buttons to assign everything to the thing. And I'm just more a keyboard kinda guy really...

I guess fuly user-definable keys would be a nightmare, but I was just thinking that putting split onto a 'fatter' key would be useful. How about number-pad 0, as one's always by the arrow keys, or even 'alt gr' - who ever uses that?!

Also, generally more options to assign more things to the toolbar would be useful, maybe allowing for a second toolbar row.

Ben
Ben  wrote on 9/17/2003, 4:42 PM
And another one...

What I suppose is effectively track grouping, so I don't have to multiple-select tracks each time I want to bring down their collective volumes or bring up their FX sends by the same amount. Currently, the selection is obviously lost when you click somewhere on the time line. A pain. So, track grouping would be a another useful 'pro DAW' feature I reckon.

Ben