What Happens In Vegas, Should Stay In Vegas

karma17 wrote on 7/3/2017, 2:13 AM

Vegas has always been my favorite editing program. I've found its interface and controls to be intuitive and easy to use. It has been a very robust and stable program, rarely crashing or freezing up. I love how easy it is to add effects in a chain and it has fantastic rendering and audio options. The little thorn in my side has always been Da Vinci Resolve, and now that Black Magic is being disruptive and brought the price down to $299, I have to admit that Resolve is looking tempting to consider as a finishing program. However, when I last tried its NLE abilities, I found them to be no match for Vegas.

My question is:

If Da Vinci Resolve can try to become a one-stop NLE, why can't Vegas? What happens in Vegas should stay in Vegas, right?

Right now, I am satisfied with the look I can get in Vegas alone using the Film Convert or Red Giant plug-ins and then doing just a few tweaks. But I don't feel like Vegas is all it could be and it is a drag having to rely so much on so many plug-ins.

Does anyone use Vegas as a one-stop shop? And if you do, how do you manage your color correction? Are the in-house tools enough for you? Just curious.

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Marco. wrote on 7/3/2017, 3:55 AM

70 % of my CC demands are done with Levels, LAB Adjust and Color Corrector as Vegas internal FX.

For any higher demands I use the Tiffen DFX filter bundle which works as OFX inside Vegas Pro (and NB ColorFast sometimes).

Grazie wrote on 7/3/2017, 4:57 AM

+10 Marco.

When the Vegas Engineers allowed for 3rd parties to get down and busy with pouring their talents into providing other solutions, this has resulted in an emmense amount of just doable tools for us VegHeads.

OldSmoke wrote on 7/3/2017, 6:40 AM

Are the in-house tools enough for you? Just curious.

Yes they are. They are just not as intuitive as others. The Channel Blend tool is very powerful but doesn't provide a good GUI.

Grazie wrote on 7/3/2017, 7:35 AM

You should try Channel Blend for intuitive GUIs! But I love it 😍.

OldSmoke wrote on 7/3/2017, 7:39 AM

Are the in-house tools enough for you? Just curious.

Yes they are. They are just not as intuitive as others. The Channel Blend tool is very powerful but doesn't provide a good GUI. I corrected my earlier post.

I would also say that some plug ins like the Color Curves need to be updated. It's a powerful tool with very little control.

Video_flaneur wrote on 7/4/2017, 12:15 AM

Does anyone use Vegas as a one-stop shop? And if you do, how do you manage your color correction? Are the in-house tools enough for you?

One of the things I use Vegas for is to create and manage hundreds of short videos on a website. The content of the videos is regularly changing - for instance changing mid-roll advertisements or altered venue details and times. The power of nested projects mean that I often only have to make a change in one subproject which then bubbles through to all the master projects. True, each of the master projects has to be re-rendered and uploaded again but that is stuff that can go in in the background while I am doing other work.

I have experimented with other NLEs but none seems to have the convenience for such work that Vegas and nested projects provides.

Having said that, the power and convenience would quickly slip away if each project required ducking in and out of Vegas to other programs. Rather than making an alteration to one subproject then simply batch rendering 17 master projects, the work involved would be much more tedious and time consuming.

Thus if an external titling program or colour rendering program will produce slightly better results than Native Vegas Plus Addons, I am still likely to use the Vegas solution to maintain a manageable continuous update workflow.

For this aspect of what I do I strongly prefer that "What Happens In Vegas, Should Stay In Vegas".

Grazie wrote on 7/4/2017, 12:33 AM

VF, I completely agree with you.

What I'd like to add is that the VegEngineers have allowed for 3rd Party s/w houses to mix-it with our beloved VP. Over the past five years this has been a fundamental value change to the benefit of us all. Do I think that the in-house Tools will be ever be re-engineered, to meet the slickness of the 21st Century? Not a chance! Do I think that MAGIX will be keeping an eye open here and on the wider market place to make their newest acquisition (VP) meet the demands of the Global, creative society? We're all keeping an eye on this and still waiting to see their actions on this, but so far so good.