What happens when I drag a clip onto the timeline

Chienworks wrote on 11/22/2010, 8:02 AM

Not sure what you mean by "rename the sliced sections". You can rename the markers or the regions, but you can't rename the events that result from slicing. You can rename the original media file, but that applies to every piece of it you've put on the timeline.

Splitting something up on the timeline does absolutely nothing to the original clip. Regions are merely indicators on the timeline.

bStro wrote on 11/22/2010, 9:05 AM

What do these become?

Every piece of media on the timeline -- whether brought into Vegas or created within Vegas -- is called an event.

Is that what you want to know?

Do these show up in some kind of list somewhere?

Well, there's the Edit Details window. It's not visible by default. Go to View > Edit Details to open it.

Rob

liquid wrote on 11/22/2010, 10:55 AM

Since the regions don't work in pro 10,

http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/forums/ShowMessage.asp?MessageID=737764&Replies=8

I'm trying to find a way around this. I need to be able to create some kind of regions and have a list of them. Maybe subclips? But I don't really know what these do.

liquid wrote on 11/22/2010, 11:13 AM

Yes, I've looked into subclips, this appears to be the best way around this dysfunctional regions, does anyone know of any other ways?

Chienworks wrote on 11/22/2010, 12:57 PM

Just a guess, but is there a possibility you're mixing up "timeline" and "trimmer"? I get the feeling that the functions you're asking for are things you can do in the trimmer. Regions on the timeline are just time marks. They don't create or define anything.

xberk wrote on 11/22/2010, 1:01 PM

You can open multiple instances of Vegas and copy and paste events between them. Why not slice up your takes in one instance of Vegas and save that Timeline as a sort of media bin. You can create Regions for each slice of an event on the timeline by double clicking the slice on the timeline and pressing R for regions (then name the region) You can lock these down (if needed) by right clicking on the slice and choosing switches/lock.. This would give you a bin of the event all sliced up and named as regions. You can copy these, one at a time or in groups, into another instance of Vegas and have the advantage of making them longer or shorter as needed since they actually are the "full" event trimmed NOT A SUBCLIP. The other choice is to make subclips of each slice in the trimmer, name them and use the subclips in the project media bin. The problem with using subclips is that you can't make them longer later on if needed but have to go back to the orig event to make them longer.

There are other workflows others can suggest for taking long takes and dividing them into scenes or clips.

Have no clue why your regions are not working right in the Trimmer.

liquid wrote on 11/22/2010, 1:39 PM

I'm not sure what you mean by "save that Timeline as a sort of media bin."

When I create a clip on the timeline, double click it and hit r to create a region it does create a region, but this doesn't show up in my regions list either.

It would just be easier to edit file in empty space at the end of my time line edit it and the put it in place. This will work fine for a small project, but as it grows it'll get more tedious.

That's a shame about the sub clips not being editable, I wonder what the point of sub clips is then?

xberk wrote on 11/22/2010, 2:10 PM

I'm not sure what you mean by "save that Timeline as a sort of media bin."
I meant to save that timeline as a Vegas project so you can close it and reopen it. The concept is to use this Vegas project as a "timeline media bin" ..

The Timeline regions are not embedded into the event like Regions created in the trimmer. They are TIMELINE REGIONS and separate from the event itself.
But you can name them and see the names above the thumbnail of the trimmed event. This would act like a bin for picking out which "trim" you want to use.
The key is to use a second instance of Vegas to do the actual assembly. It seems like you want to use a "shot" list to pick from and have the ability to drag those to the timeline. I like the visual timeline where I can see a thumbnail of the trim as well as the name of the trim. And of course, you can have trims from multiple events on the same timeline in fact all kinds of media on that timeline "bin" whereas you can't do this with region view. It does take a bit longer to copy and paste between instances of Vegas than dragging regions up to the timeline but it works. -- subclips would give the shot list and ability to drag to the timeline -- and of course, marking regions in the trimmer would do it too but that is not working with your media .. But generally that's the concept using a Vegas Timeline as a media bin. I do this often even using multiple video tracks in my timeline bin to separate things and keep track of things. All of this made possible since you can copy and paste between instances of Vegas.