So you mean that I don't see any new plug-ins because I already have them? (Since Ignite Pro is Hitfilm Pro plug-in pack). Or because they are not included in the pack.

And thank you for the precision about Vegas Effect being similar to Hitfilm Pro.

Also I can confirm that when installing Vegas Post trial I got Vegas Effects demo version.



 

So you mean that I don't see any new plug-ins because I already have them?

Yes. I believe that the situation will be that your Ignite Pro pack enables those plugins to be available within Vegas Pro; however, if you did not have Ignite Pro, those same VFX would only be accessible in Vegas Effects or HitFilm Pro, whichever one is installed.

It would be great if someone on the forum with Vegas Effects could confirm that the VFX in VE are exactly the same as in Ignite Pro https://fxhome.com/product/ignite-pro/features. But from https://www.vegascreativesoftware.com/us/vegas-post/vegas-effects/#productMenu , VE's VFX do seem to be the same as in HitFilm Pro and Ignite Pro.

EDIT: Comments on FXHome's forum have come to the same conclusion: the VFX in Vegas Effects are the same as in HitFilm Pro (thus Ignite Pro). One example is https://community.fxhome.com/discussion/comment/148998#Comment_148998

https://community.fxhome.com/search?query=vegas%20effects&scope=site for a wider search.

I'm going to venture an alternate explanation, the new plug ins that you may be seeking are embedded in HitFilm Pro, (Vegas effects) as a program within a program and are accessible only when you'd want to edit via HitFilm, which takes a few seconds to open and then you're in a whole new environment.

 

That's much the same as I commented above with:

I believe that the situation will be that your Ignite Pro pack enables those plugins to be available within Vegas Pro; however, if you did not have Ignite Pro, those same VFX would only be accessible in Vegas Effects or HitFilm Pro, whichever one is installed.

I'm going to venture an alternate explanation, the new plug ins that you may be seeking are embedded in HitFilm Pro, (Vegas effects) as a program within a program and are accessible only when you'd want to edit via HitFilm, which takes a few seconds to open and then you're in a whole new environment.

 

I do not use HitFilm Pro, I use Ignite Pro plug-ins in Vegas. And I don't know it I am looking for a new plug-in, I am asking if there is anything new. I expected Magix came up with a full plug-in suite branded as a Vegas product, I didn't expect that that would come with FXhome's Ignite plug-ins in the first place (if this is confirmed at all...)

They are pretty close same (based evaluation what I just did), but with HitFilm pro one gets two interesting 3rd party tools (limited base version of Mocha (important point is that it really is not that full version of Mocha) and Boris 3D Objects, https://fxhome.com/store/hitfilm-express, which are not available in Vegas Effects). Still after evaluation I put my coins into Vegas Post Suite, since I kind of liked Vegas Pro.

Vegas Post Suite trial contains full Vegas Effects (and Vegas Image (pretty much same as imerge pro)), Vegas Effects adds in trial mode "ding ding" extra sounds in clips, and both add big banner in top of the output. Otherwise they seemed full versions.

And since Vegas Effects and Hitfilm are close relatives, I was actually able to open effect created in Vegas Effects in hitfilm express and vice-versa (just needed to change filename extension).
 

https://fxhome.com/store/hitfilm-express, which are not available in Vegas Effects

Ok so, if Vegas Effects doesn't even come with hitfilm-express, I guess it doesn't include Ignite Pro plug-in (it would be clearly advertised on Vegas Effects page also...)
My most likely conclusion at this point is that Vegas Effects doesn't come with any new plug-in or image processing than native Vegas Pro plug-ins.

My most likely conclusion at this point is that Vegas Effects doesn't come with any new plug-in or image processing than native Vegas Pro plug-ins.

Just to clarify because there seems to be a bit of confusion entering the topic. Vegas Effects is a trimmed down version of HitFilm Pro. Vegas Effects does not include any Vegas Pro VFX plugins at all. The VFX plugins in Vegas Effects are sourced from HitFilm Pro - and HitFilm Pro's proprietary VFX are also the source for Ignite Pro.

HitFilm Express is a vastly trimmed down and very basic version of HitFilm Pro and is available free from FXHome. Express relies on users buying add-on VFX packages from FXHome where needed - but all of those extra 'packages' are already included natively in HitFilm Pro and, almost certainly, in Vegas Effects (other than Mocha and Foundry). There's nothing missing in HitFilm Pro that is available in HitFilm Express.

Summary: if you've got Ignite Pro and all you want from Vegas Post / Vegas Effects are those very same plugins - and you don't need advanced compositing - then I would think that's there's little point in getting Post.

One caveat though - not all Ignite Pro plugins function in all NLEs whereas all do in HitFilm Pro. Check out https://fxhome.com/product/ignite-pro compatibility to see which VFX that work in HitFilm Pro (and thus Vegas Effects) do not function as an Ignite Pro plugin directly within Vegas Pro.

Vegas Effects does not include any Vegas Pro VFX plugins at all. The VFX plugins in Vegas Effects

Yes, right. Sorry. I said Vegas Effects doesn't include any other plug-ins but I more thinking like "what you get when you get Vegas Post", so I made a slight confusion between Vegas Effects and Vegas Post levels.


Edit: I'm not sure yet if I'm interested in advanced compositing.
But know if Post includes Ignite Pro, and how much of it, could be useful on the day I would need to update Ignite Pro ... (but I think there's time until then)

@Dexcon Thanks for the clarification but one thing puzzles me. According to the HitFilm Pro website HitFilm Pro is basically a video editor. As such it appears to be a competitor to Vegas Pro although it probably includes additional features that VP doesn't have. As Vegas Effects is a trimmed down version of HitFilm Pro does Vegas Effects still include the editing aspects of HitFilm Pro?

@EricLNZ  ... a very good question. There have been quite a few questions on the forum over quite some time asking for more details about Vegas Post/Vegas Effects but there have been few answers/comments. A few weeks ago, an OP asked for details about what VFX are in Vegas Effects - there were no responses even days later.

Vegas Effects information and features on Vegas Post Suite's webpage doesn't show what the VE window looks like; instead, a Vegas Pro workspace image is shown under VE's Workflow heading. So I have just done a bit of an explore online and found 2 YT reviews of Vegas Effects as it was with Vegas Pro 17. The first one - - has many full screen shots of VE's workspace, including this one:

And this YT tutorial - - provides an intro tutorial into the basic workflow of Vegas Effects (from 56 seconds in).

From these 2 YTs, I think that anyone familiar with working in HitFilm Pro would be comfortable with VE, but it does seem that VE does not provide any editing capabilities, both tutorials showing only one video event on VE's timeline at any one time. Interestingly, the 2nd YT shows the importing of a video event into VE, but the attached audio event does follow into VE. To be fair, this is the same as occurs with the long existing 'Edit in HitFilm' function in Vegas Pro - only the video event is exported to HitFilm Pro.

From the 2nd YT, the VFX packages that are showing in VE's Effects window are the same as appear in HitFilm Pro. Curiously, even the Audio plugin package is there, but it doesn't seem that VE provides any audio functions on the timeline.

Anyway, I think that these YT tutorials answer a lot of questions that have gone unanswered for some time.