Why is version 5 worse than V3?

SNJ wrote on 7/22/2004, 9:43 AM
I have been a user of Vegas Video 3 for several years now, as an audio editor; I hardly ever use the video component of the application. I have found Vegas to be the fastest, most intuitive audio editor I have ever used in my 7 years of running a recording studio, I will challenge any ProTools editor to a face off any day with Vegas as my weapon of choice. I never use MIDI and find that all my needs are met combining Vegas 3 with SoundForge 6. I manage to get about 35 tracks of audio with around 10 to 15 third party plugins running realtime, while tracking a stereo file back in. I'm running a Pentium 4 2.8GHz with two 160 gig drives, I have M Audio Delta 10/10 cards. Win XP Pro.

After reading a review on Vegas 5 and seeing that it had been bought out by Sony I was interested in upgrading, my main reason being the new automation features, being able to draw envelopes for threshold levels for compressors and the like is very enticing. I downloaded the Vegas 5 demo to test it out.

The first hassle I had was mainly due to the fact that my internet PC is at home and my audio PC is at the studio, and I do not allow the studio PC to go online. When I tried to install Vegas5, I was informed I needed Microsoft NET, which meant waiting until the next day to install, after a hefty 26 MB download that night. After installing NET Vegas 5 installed flawlessly.

I was pleased to see the familiar layout of Vegas was still true, yet it has a classier updated feel, especially the fader movement in the "track optimized" EQ & Compressor FX.

As I said I have used Vegas 3 as my main app so i had plenty of Vegas 3 session files and I loaded one up into Vegas 5. After about 20 seconds of playback - GLITCH. It drops out for about 0.2 of a second, then continiues, and drops out again about 5 seconds later. Then it just gets very choppy. Not good - I tweaked the audio device settings, tried different playback bauufer settings. Increasing this to max (1.00) gave me a longer period before a dropout, but this was nowhere near the performance of Vegas 3. I tried both ASIO and Classic Windows Drivers (Classic Win drivers worked best for me on Vegas 3) but no change was experienced.

I was sure that this session was no sweat in Vegas 3, so I reinstalled it. I ran the exact same Vegas session in Vegas three with no dropouts whatsoever - I even managed to import a further 10 stereo tracks of audio and it took it all in it's stride.

I started a fresh project in Vegas 5, importing about 12 wave files. Same problem - glitches after about a minute or so, and then really bad staggered playback. No plugins running. No edits in the wave files and no envelopes drawn. Trying the same test in Vegas 3; no problems, I got up to about 50 tracks before a few dropouts occured.

Your advice may be to stick with Vegas 3 but I feel it's starting to get left behind, having that automation would be great. If I was to never be able to upgrade past Vegas 3 I would feel I should start learning a new application before I find myself knowing a program no system will support anymore, or some plugins wont work in.

Any advice would be graetly appreciated, I really want to stick with Vegas and if I can get Version 5 to run as good as I has Vegas 3 then I would be set, I was actually hoping a bit more track count & performance from version 5.... oh well.

Adam B

Comments

BrianStanding wrote on 7/22/2004, 10:10 AM
You may want to go through the Options/Preferences section and make sure you things have set for optimal playback.

Some things to check:
1. Make sure your temp and preview folders are not on your boot drive.
2. Turn off Net Notify (especially if you're not connected to the Internet!), AutoSave, and other "background" processes that may steal time from playback.

There may be other settings that you had "customized" in your V3 installation that you haven't yet transferred over to V5. Maybe run them side by side and compare the Preferences box?
SNJ wrote on 7/22/2004, 10:29 AM
I have checked the properties of both versions and it they are set the same, in fact I had not changed any preferences in Vegas 3 after I reinstalled it, so there were no "customised" options.

The difference between them does not sem to be slight. I can get at least 60% more grunt out of Vegas 3....
TheHappyFriar wrote on 7/22/2004, 10:50 AM
I was annoyed about the .Net stuff too. But, wasn't it included on the CD you got?