why long renders on montage?

pugsly1011 wrote on 8/2/2004, 3:38 PM

I have a 20 minute photo montage, with 99.9% of the pictures not having movement.

There are some very composting and 3d movement in 2 secitons, but they are short in relation to the entire video length.

IT too 17HOURS to render - Ihave never had a render take this long - I have done 2+ hour videos editied and rendered less than this -

I bypassed the default track fxs, I dont understand why it is taking so long

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stepfour wrote on 8/3/2004, 10:15 PM

Imaginate sounds like a keyframeable 3-D album program. Vegas, on the other hand, is a full-featured editing package and still my choice for montages because of the care my eyeballs can put into keying the movement that automation surely cannot. I have to say I have not seen Imaginate. Maybe it allows just as much care and control.

Despite what does the best montage, there really is much to say about the very slow rendering that Vegas is known for. SF, and now Sony Media, let the other guys get way ahead with the smart-rendering, background rendering and just flat out faster engines, that end up saving tons of time. I would love to see Vegas shed the slow-rendering and poor text-handling nameplate, once and for all, in the next big release. Maybe they won't get to the level of a bullet train like Imaginate, but just get faster, a lot faster. Surely, they've got the minds onboard to do it, but, is it important to them/us? If not, why?
My 2 pence.

plasmavideo wrote on 8/4/2004, 2:04 PM

Jason,

You can indeed save presets and templates. I've not totally explored all of it's features yet. You easily can go in and change the settings that the automated layouts produce. You have full control over the linear or spline based movements and very good keyframe control. You can do limited 3D space movement as well. V2 is much better than V1. If you tried a trial version of V1, you will find that this is a whole new animal. You can output in either DV Codec or uncompressed AVI for keying in other projects.

What it is NOT is a video editing app, as you are limited to dissolves or blur dissolves between photos. You can change the transition overlap width. You also can put a 3 minute piece of music on the timeline and tell Imaginate to stretch the project to fit.

It will take extremely detailed photos and retain full quality as you zoom in and out. I know of one person who uses it with highly detailed blueprints for engineering presentations. I used it last week to zoom in on a very high DPI scanned image of a local map and then imported it into Vegas to integrate into the video.

Add it to your arsenal. It won't replace Vegas by any means, even if you only do montages, but I've been delighted with my investment in it. The rendered quality of what I've done so far has been excellent.

As a disclaimer, I am a big fan of, and own, Canopus products as well as Sony/SonicFoundry stuff.

I will try to duplicate some of the exact same moves in Imaginate and in Vegas 4 (I don't have 5) and see how long each takes to generate a DV CODEC AVI. My impression is that in render time Imaginate is a lot faster. I haven't done a montage in Vegas recently, so my memory needs a bit of a jump-start.

PLAS