Why the heck is the forum acting screwy

Gary James wrote on 6/17/2016, 7:09 AM
For about the past week the Sony forum Bulletin Board software has been acting up on my computer. I click on a topic, and when I click on the link to go back to the topic list, it returns but automatically advances to the next page of topics. Also if I simply hit F5 to have the Browser refresh the page, the BBS automatically advances the display to the next page of topics. The Sony BBS is the only thing that's changed. Nothing else I look at in my Firefox Browser has changed.

What's going on?

Comments

JJKizak wrote on 6/17/2016, 7:48 AM
Java might have something to do with it.
JJK
Eagle Six wrote on 6/17/2016, 9:20 AM
Nothing has changed here....on Firefox 46.0


Best Regards......George

System Specs......
Corsair Obsidian Series 450D ATX Mid Tower
Asus X99-A II LGA 2011-v3, Intel X99 SATA 6 Gb/s USB 3.1/3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
Intel Core i7-6800K 15M Broadwell-E, 6 core 3.4 GHz LGA 2011-v3 (overclocked 20%)
64GB Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3200
Corsair Hydro Series H110i GTX 280mm Extreme Performance Liquid CPU Cooler
MSI Radeon R9 390 DirectX 12 8GB Video Card
Corsair RMx Series RM750X 740W 80 Plus Gold power pack
Samsung 970 EVO NVMe M.2 boot drive
Corsair Neutron XT 2.5 480GB SATA III SSD - video work drive
Western Digitial 1TB 7200 RPM SATA - video work drive
Western Digital Black 6TB 7200 RPM SATA 6Bb/s 128MB Cache 3.5 data drive

Bluray Disc burner drive
2x 1080p monitors
Microsoft Window 10 Pro
DaVinci Resolve Studio 16 pb2
SVP13, MVP15, MVP16, SMSP13, MVMS15, MVMSP15, MVMSP16

videoITguy wrote on 6/17/2016, 9:27 AM
FireFox 47 does this very odd behavior as described by the OP - nothing else changed on the base OS system.

Will probably need to include report of which OS system - here XP ServicePack3
Tom Pauncz wrote on 6/17/2016, 9:33 AM
FF 47.0 works fine here. No such problems.
ddm wrote on 6/17/2016, 2:21 PM
Haven't seen any problems here, mostly using Edge.
Gary James wrote on 6/17/2016, 4:02 PM
"FireFox 47 does this very odd behavior"

Come to think of it. This odd behavior may have started when I upgraded Firefox to v47 a few days ago.
JJKizak wrote on 6/17/2016, 4:07 PM
I mentioned Java because Firefox and Google Chrome will no longer support it. You will see a menu pop up that Firefox may no longer be compatible with Java if Firefox is trying to open a Java applet.
JJK
videoITguy wrote on 6/17/2016, 4:47 PM
for : JJKizak

saying that the navigation abberation is something to do with java is just not saying very much.

If you look at the FireFox 47 debugger as you navigate you can see that javascript is pulled continuously whether you navigate to this site or anywhere else for that matter.

There was no menu pop-up - FireFox47 is claimed to be fully functional by some and not by others - that is not the difference caused by using java...
Kit wrote on 6/17/2016, 11:22 PM
Java and Javascript are totally different. I won't let Java onto my system as I consider it a security risk. I'm careful about allowing Javascript (I use NoScript) . Most forums require javascript to work 100%.
JJKizak wrote on 6/18/2016, 5:58 AM
I just checked and I have Firefox 47 and it does the same thing, jumps to the next page of threads.
Sorry about the Java stuff.
JJK
Kit wrote on 6/18/2016, 6:36 PM
I switched to Pale Moon when Mozilla began their numbers game with Firefox. Pale Moon comes in 32 and 64 bit varieties and, I think, is more secure. No problems with the forum using version 24.2.2 64 bit.
DeadRadioStar wrote on 6/18/2016, 7:28 PM
No issues here with Windows 10 x64 and Firefox 47. I think Gary James and videITguy need to figure out what it is that they have in common on their systems.
[EDIT[ Doh! Yes, seeing the same thing ... it just wasn't my normal modus operandi. Not a big deal for me, but yes, I can confirm that this appears to be a Firefox 47 glitch.
videoITguy wrote on 6/19/2016, 9:13 AM
The forum in general has been having issues for about the last 9 months. Some threads in the recent past did confront the site administrator about undesirable behaviors during this period, but as it turns our there was no admission of wrong doing. Yet the coding has been changed in the SCS site server one way or the other.

Don't blame FireFox47 when in fact the common variable is actually a site change/incompatibility practice with the use of all popular wide-use browsers. This navigation issue appears in a specific set of routines that the user can initiate on the site pull - the server code is the problem at SCS.
riredale wrote on 6/19/2016, 2:46 PM
I'm using an old browser. Forum has been fine here, never a glitch. So what has changed with the new browsers?
Eagle Six wrote on 6/19/2016, 4:20 PM
Hi Gary,

The computer I use to access this website forum is Windows 7, using Firefox 46.0.1. Whenever I hit the link to return it takes me back to the previous page, as it should.

I have another computer running Windows XP. and Firefox 46.0.1 Last week on that computer I updated Firefox to version 47. I immediately had two problems. Rather than spend the time to run down the cause, I rolled back Firefox to 46.0.1 and the problems went away.

So, I updated this Win 7 computer to Firefox 47 and experienced the same problems as I had on the XP box and in addition, using the link to return to the previous page acts like your problem, it advances to the next page!

I rolled back to ver 46.0.1 Firefox and everything works as usual again. So maybe it is something SCS changed recently in the forum software, maybe it is something with Firefox 47.

I haven't noticed any problem with the SCS forums misbehaving in the past. On the other hand Firefox 47 presented me with 3 problems I really don't need to spend time on, so I'll just stick with 46.0.1 for now.


Best Regards.......George

System Specs......
Corsair Obsidian Series 450D ATX Mid Tower
Asus X99-A II LGA 2011-v3, Intel X99 SATA 6 Gb/s USB 3.1/3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
Intel Core i7-6800K 15M Broadwell-E, 6 core 3.4 GHz LGA 2011-v3 (overclocked 20%)
64GB Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3200
Corsair Hydro Series H110i GTX 280mm Extreme Performance Liquid CPU Cooler
MSI Radeon R9 390 DirectX 12 8GB Video Card
Corsair RMx Series RM750X 740W 80 Plus Gold power pack
Samsung 970 EVO NVMe M.2 boot drive
Corsair Neutron XT 2.5 480GB SATA III SSD - video work drive
Western Digitial 1TB 7200 RPM SATA - video work drive
Western Digital Black 6TB 7200 RPM SATA 6Bb/s 128MB Cache 3.5 data drive

Bluray Disc burner drive
2x 1080p monitors
Microsoft Window 10 Pro
DaVinci Resolve Studio 16 pb2
SVP13, MVP15, MVP16, SMSP13, MVMS15, MVMSP15, MVMSP16

videoITguy wrote on 6/19/2016, 5:54 PM
Of course FireFox47 displays a problem, but that is not necessarily the cause of the problem. If it was purely the browser cause, then there would certainly seem to be other navigational problems with FireFox47 not only at SCS but also with other sites.

Can anyone say that is the cause/display issue for FireFox47 elsewhere?
DeadRadioStar wrote on 6/19/2016, 6:42 PM
FWIW .... I just checked with my Linux laptop running Debian 8 and the (stock) IceWeasel 38.7.1 doesn't exhibit the problem.

I know this probably won't mean much to Windows people, but IceWeasel was for years the totally free open-source browser on Debian, built from the same code as Firefox, but for various reasons lagged behind the cutting-edge Firefox found on more popular operating systems.

Debian have recently embraced the "regular" Firefox so I installed that, on Debian it's still at 45.2.0 (the extended support , "ESR" verion) and yep, no difference, the forum behaves as expected, the same as on the old version 38.

OK, I don't know what's going on, but there does seem to be a difference in the way the forum behaves with Firefox 47 when you're in a forum, and you click the "Back to ..." link in the top right.

(Edits to correct typos.)
videoITguy wrote on 6/23/2016, 1:53 PM

HEY ALL!
Does everyone remember this thread of the last two weeks?????

AS of this post date and time - SCS server has been fixed and things work as they should.
JJKizak wrote on 6/23/2016, 2:56 PM
Not for me .
JJK
Eagle Six wrote on 6/23/2016, 3:25 PM
I don't think anything has changed. Firefox 47, still acts as the OP described, Firefix 46.0.1 acts normal as it has. Nothing changed here.....

...and Firefox 47 still doesn't play nice with other add-on's I like to use.

Best Regards.....George

System Specs......
Corsair Obsidian Series 450D ATX Mid Tower
Asus X99-A II LGA 2011-v3, Intel X99 SATA 6 Gb/s USB 3.1/3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
Intel Core i7-6800K 15M Broadwell-E, 6 core 3.4 GHz LGA 2011-v3 (overclocked 20%)
64GB Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3200
Corsair Hydro Series H110i GTX 280mm Extreme Performance Liquid CPU Cooler
MSI Radeon R9 390 DirectX 12 8GB Video Card
Corsair RMx Series RM750X 740W 80 Plus Gold power pack
Samsung 970 EVO NVMe M.2 boot drive
Corsair Neutron XT 2.5 480GB SATA III SSD - video work drive
Western Digitial 1TB 7200 RPM SATA - video work drive
Western Digital Black 6TB 7200 RPM SATA 6Bb/s 128MB Cache 3.5 data drive

Bluray Disc burner drive
2x 1080p monitors
Microsoft Window 10 Pro
DaVinci Resolve Studio 16 pb2
SVP13, MVP15, MVP16, SMSP13, MVMS15, MVMSP15, MVMSP16

videoITguy wrote on 6/23/2016, 4:24 PM
At the time and date of my post a couple above this one - IT DID WORK, but at this new date and time I checked again and it is back to funky!
Tom Pauncz wrote on 6/23/2016, 5:28 PM
Still works fine here on Win7 and FF 47.0.
Tom
Gary James wrote on 6/23/2016, 10:25 PM
I still see the problem running Win 7 64 bit SP1 & Firefox v47
JJKizak wrote on 6/24/2016, 6:19 AM
My Firefox 47 started working fine today.
JJK