why...Why...WHY???

Sab wrote on 2/7/2003, 8:30 AM

I have a project that is a bit over 3 minutes long. It uses 8 video tracks and 1 audio track. The lowermost video track is a Digital Juice Jumpback still image sequence. Above that is a track which contains photos. There is a track motion p-i-p applied along with a track effect of a shadow around each photo. The remaining video tracks contain text that remains constant on 4 tracks and the other 2 contain "floating" words that dissolve in and out as they move horizontally.

I can almost understand the nearly 3 hours it took to pre-render on my 1.2ghz Athlon laptop. But why, when I went to print to DV tape, does it completely re-render again??? Another couple of hours lost.

Thanks a lot in advance for your help.

Mike

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Tyler.Durden wrote on 2/7/2003, 8:35 AM

Hi Mike,

Was your prerender setting different than your final setting? That could cause a re-render.

If you are printing to tape from the timeline, prerenders are usually utilized.

FWIW, V4 will use prerenders in a final-render to avi, whereas V3 does not.

HTH, MPH

Tips:
http://www.martyhedler.com/homepage/Vegas_Tutorials.html

Sab wrote on 2/7/2003, 8:41 AM

Thanks marty, I'll check that out when it finishes the second render. This was with the V4 beta by the way.

Mike

Control_Z wrote on 2/7/2003, 9:19 AM

I haven't tried it in V4 yet because I gave up on prerendering photo projects long ago in VV3. I simply render them to .avi now.

You may be doing something else wrong because my montages render quite a bit faster. P4 2.2G, track shadows, background loop, pans every 3-4 pic; about 40 mins for 2:30 (25 pics).

For one thing I don't need but 4 video tracks including a short title and clip art overlay. The rest is just 2 tracks - the pics and the background loop.

Tyler.Durden wrote on 2/7/2003, 9:53 AM

>>>>>"I haven't tried it in V4 yet because I gave up on prerendering photo projects long ago in VV3. I simply render them to .avi now."<<<<<<

If I understand correctly, you mean you render the stills to avi, then edit?

It can be quite timesaving to place your stills on the timeline at one second durations (no overlaps) and render (best quality) to a new track... You can then split the new track at each still and drag each of the new "video stills" to the duration you like (with looping active). They will render in the final work much faster than ordinary stills.

(This is not recommended for stills you wish to Pan/Crop.)

HTH, MPH

Tips:
http://www.martyhedler.com/homepage/Vegas_Tutorials.html

Sab wrote on 2/7/2003, 12:37 PM

Hi Control Z and thanks.

The reason for the extra tracks is because this isn't a common photo montage with motion. The photos are still but must be resized to stay in the left 1/2 of the screen. They're mostly verticals of wedding cakes (this is a trade show demo for a wedding cake baker).
The additional tracks are for constantly changing text that dissolve in, float to the left or right and dissolve out, all at different levels (heights) on the screen and to the right of the cake photos. At the bottom of the screen is the company name which remains constant. Under that is a Jumpback that fills the screen and of course there is an audio track.

I did check and the pre-render settings and the print to tape settings are identical. Of course I had to start the process all over again which is indeed frustrating.

Mike

haywire wrote on 2/7/2003, 6:51 PM

Why not put the first AVI that you rendered on the timeline in a new project. That should print to tape without any re-rendering.

Michael

Control_Z wrote on 2/7/2003, 11:59 PM

>you mean you render the stills to avi, then edit?

No, I mean when I'm finished editing but before writing to tape I render. In fact, I usually use Premier to output the finished .avi to tape.

If all those layers are really necessary then yes, rendering time will increase a lot.

Sab wrote on 2/9/2003, 5:23 PM

Thanks for the reply Haywire, I guess I could have tried that. I suppose I'm more concerned that it took over 3 hours to render a 3 minute 29 second timeline. Is this common? This particular project was on our 1.2ghz laptop. I'll also try transferring the whole thing to one of our desktop editors and see if it's any faster.

I might add the end result looked beautiful but I just about missed the deadline for the client to pick up her DVD.

Mike