Window 10 Auto Upgrade W/O Reservation

Larry Clifford wrote on 7/29/2015, 11:31 AM
I know there have been many questions on this topic.

I have Windows 7 Pro 64-bit. The request to upgrade to Windows 10 has been displayed for several months. I have NOT accepted the upgrade because I don't want to upgrade, at least not now. I am satisfied with Windows 7. Also, I would other users to test Windows 10 with Sony software. I have only one PC and I don't want any problems with it.

Does anyone if Microsoft will automatically install it after they release it? They have done that with other software.

Thank you.


Former user wrote on 7/29/2015, 11:45 AM
You have to apply to get the free upgrade. From what I read, it may be an automatic download, but not an automatic install.
I have 3 computers reserved and am waiting for MS to send me my download. They are rolling it out in waves.
VMP wrote on 7/29/2015, 12:56 PM
Video review:

In case you do want to use it.
its best to first test it on a secondary device.
Test it thoroughly with all software that you have and want to use.

Will your PC run Windows 10? Use the official compatibility checker to find out

TheHappyFriar wrote on 7/29/2015, 2:40 PM
All this info is in the little icon MS put in the lower right. No need for 3rd party answers.
Hulk wrote on 7/29/2015, 5:21 PM
I'll probably upgrade but am in absolutely no rush especially considering we have a year for the free upgrade. I'll wait a month or so for the July 29 beta testers to really vet it;)
ushere wrote on 7/29/2015, 7:29 PM
+1 hulk ;-)
Former user wrote on 7/29/2015, 11:02 PM
I've upgraded on one of my systems (my currently lesser used system - but I made an image of my boot drive so it's low risk).

So far most of my apps seem fine. I'm getting the intermittent tones that tell you Vegas isn't authorized. It's annoying as all get out.

Otherwise, everything is stable. I've loaded up a couple of major projects and they seem perfectly fine....except for the intermittent beeping which is REALLY annoying.

Does anyone know the standard way to deal with it? Uninstall/reinstall?
Former user wrote on 7/29/2015, 11:15 PM
An update: uninstalling and reinstalling Vegas didn't remove the annoying tones. I'll be making a call to Support in the morning.
VidMus wrote on 7/30/2015, 2:00 AM
So far Windows 10 is different. Better? No! Waste of time to install? YES!

Don't bother...
FPP wrote on 7/30/2015, 7:20 AM
What is fundamentally different with W10? How much time is needed to install?
Do you think it would be better to buy a W10 computer with factory installation?
Or, perhaps we are expecting to much from such a dramatic upgrade?
I don't care about "Different".. I'm more concerned about functionality
Steve Grisetti wrote on 7/30/2015, 7:41 AM
Windows 10 is Microsoft's answer to Apple's OSX. They free upgrade is Microsoft's attempt to get the world on the same operating system -- which they hope to use as a platform for any future updates (all of which will likely also be free).

In my experience using it for the last six months, it's a solid operating system with some nice new features.

It won't change your life -- but neither will switching to a Mac from a Windows machine. It's just an operating system. But it's a good one and, six months from now, everyone will or should be on it.

So it's up to you if you want to take an hour to upgrade to it. Now or later. But ultimately it will definitely be something you'll want to do.

What we're experiencing now is the same old doomsayer reaction we hear whenever a new OS is released. Even MacIntosh gets it whenever they release their next generation of OSX -- even though ultimately the buzz dies down, everyone gets on the new version and life goes on until the next upgrade.
JJKizak wrote on 7/30/2015, 8:13 AM
The key issue is compatibility and how many new components do I have to purchase. I could give a crap less about all the bling.
ushere wrote on 7/30/2015, 8:59 AM
as i've probably written before - does it make my programs run faster, more reliably?

not in the least interested in interface - i spend nearly all my time in my programs, not in windows...
VidMus wrote on 7/30/2015, 9:17 AM

Except for a few frills, the changes are mostly in the way it looks. Right now I am giving my first impressions. After I use it a while, then I might start liking it. This is on my internet system.

While installing it, there was one part where a person could click on a whatever it was called and easily and quickly use all of the defaults. Which includes sending a whole bunch of stuff to Microsoft. They use it to know ALL of your browsing habits including all of the web sites you go to and a bunch of other stuff. Most of which to share with sponsors.

So how does Microsoft get paid for this so-called free upgrade? They sell the information to advertisers!


Now, there was another post about compatibility. After backing up my NLE system, I had connected it to the internet to see if I could get it preserved for Windows 10. I never could get it successfully updated to Windows 8 because of many incompatibilities its programs and hardware has.

So I never got that little window on it. While reading information on Microsoft's site, I noticed that this can happen on a system that is not fully compatible with Windows 10.

So lets see, the sound card I have never functioned as it should on Windows 8. So that caused me to not be able to use important features that I need and use.

My software real-time analyzer never worked either. That is extremely important for me to use to see what I cannot hear. And I cannot afford an external hardware type.

At boot up, there was some kind of weird explorer error that I thought I had fixed but it had come back again.

I had already sacrificed a number of very useful applications to get the s-t-u-p-i-d thing upgraded.

Now, will Windows 10 be the same? Knowing that my Windows 7 system is already NOT compatible, I wonder, what I will have to sacrifice to get Windows 10 working on my NLE system?

The biggest headache was uninstalling that awful Intel USB 3 extensible driver! It has to be done by trying to install a later version of it. The first attempt creates an instant BSOD! The second attempt goes a little bit farther and then creates another BSOD. After so many BSOD's, it will finally tell me that the new installation failed.

Then I will go to the control panel and use the uninstall there. Then I go would go to the device manager and uninstall the root part of it and then finally the driver itself. The updated driver NEVER installed no matter what I did!

All of that effort and the blasted Windows 8 never did work right.

So now, what will I have to go through to upgrade to Windows 10? I read that one can do a clean install of it, BUT will it be compatible with the important hardware's and software's that I use? I sincerely doubt it! A lot of companies dragged their feet with Windows 8 and will probably do the same with Windows 10.

I got a lot of video work coming up and I have no time to waste trying to figure out Windows 10 on my NLE system that I already know it is not compatible with! And that is even with that awful Intel USB 3 driver uninstalled.

Anyway, there is a lot more to say, but I will stop with this for now. I got to get ready for important video work so my NLE system will continue with Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit for now.

As for the future? Am I stuck with Windows 7 forever?

Time will tell...
Marc S wrote on 7/30/2015, 9:04 PM
Just saw this little gem near the end of in the New York Times article:

"The upgrade will be free for up to a year — after that, Microsoft may begin charging for it."

Ok... so a monthly bill like the "Creative Slave Cloud"? No thanks! I despise the idea of monthly payments for software. Imagine having to pay a monthly fee for your operating system software, word processing software, editing software, accounting software etc. This could turn into $200 bucks a month and cut you off from your computer the day you stop paying. I sure hope consumers do not submit to this extortion scam in the software industry.

I don't mind paying a reasonable upgrade fee (even though Microsoft software has never been reasonably priced) but this is getting ridiculous. These days it seems all about trapping the consumer into your software system instead innovating to the point they gladly come in with their wallet open.
Former user wrote on 7/30/2015, 9:35 PM
I think that means, you can get the upgrade free for a year. After that, if you want to upgrade and haven't yet, it will cost you.
FPP wrote on 7/30/2015, 11:43 PM
@Marc S---It doesn't really read that way to me.. But we may someday look up and realize that the air we breath out side of our private homes cost us a monthly premium... But right now I think MicroSoft realized they need to get all PC users in the same technical arena for better O S development and more competitive performance for all who intend to stay "P C".
I wonder if P C and MAC computers could ever be married as one working unit and become "Super Processors" for everyone .
It would be the first multi-trillion dollar company and could make or break the stock market any day of the week.
I'm sorry.. I took leave of my senses for a moment here..
Former user wrote on 7/31/2015, 12:04 AM
Quick update: the beeping wasn't was Wave Hammer. I had a chat with SCS Support and they're working on a work-around (probably changes to the registry).

In other news...I really like Win10. It's benchmarking about 10% faster on the systems I've installed it on. It's more like Win7+steroids. Just a more contemporary version that was due. If you're comfortable with Win7, Win10 will be familiar and have some added perks. For me, the NVidia Support (GTX670) is good, MOTU Ultralite works fine in all applications, Vegas (Wave Hammer issue aside) is good, and no problems to report with Photoshop CS6.

Microsoft may have a winner on its hands. Who knew?

EDIT: The beeping was indeed wave hammer not being registered. A quick uninstall/reinstall of SF11 and all is well. Win10 is a keeper IMHO. And I find it LESS instrusive than Win8 in pretty much every conceivable way.
Kit wrote on 7/31/2015, 12:35 AM
I don't like the walled garden approach (use a Microsoft Account or get hassled) of Windows 8 - how much worse is it in Windows 10?
Marc S wrote on 7/31/2015, 2:11 AM
Ok, hopefully I'm just reading too much into it. I had read some other articles months ago speculating that they might go in that direction. I'll wait and see. I would just hate to move everything to Windows 10 and then be hit with a subscription option only. Adobe has left a bad taste in my mouth and it seems like others in the industry want to follow their example.
Grazie wrote on 7/31/2015, 4:28 AM
As the Gold price goes South, investors git itchy. Products that stay stale need to get profitable. Subscription-income is one way to do it. Marc_S, I think you've nailed it.

John_Cline wrote on 7/31/2015, 5:19 AM
A subscription model operating system? Nonsense. Gillette gave away razor handles and charged for the blades. Printer manufacturers virtually give away printers and charge handsomely for the ink. Windows 10 will remain free for the first year giving everyone plenty of time to upgrade from Win 7 and 8, they're going to make their money from apps sold in the App store.
Steve Mann wrote on 7/31/2015, 11:16 PM
"... they're going to make their money from apps sold in the App store."

It took Apple quite a few years, but as I understand the mac universe, if you don't sell your programs through the Apple Store, you won't sell many copies.