Worth it to upgrade GTX 570 or 560ti video card?

TheLaw wrote on 5/2/2016, 1:36 PM
I have both of these with the 560ti in the machine I use to edit video. It does use up quite a bit of power and I don't know if it really provides that much of an advantage over the built in video for the i7-3770k. It seems to render for the screen better but it certainly doesn't provide benefit for video encoding a project. I was wondering if any of the new cards like the Radeon R7 370 (2gb or 4gb) would make any difference for Sony Vegas 12 or Vegas 13 - or even any other related product. Was curious to know what others have found.

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OldSmoke wrote on 5/2/2016, 2:39 PM
Read this.

Proud owner of Sony Vegas Pro 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 & 13 and now Magix VP15&16.

System Spec.:
Motherboard: ASUS X299 Prime-A

Ram: G.Skill 4x8GB DDR4 2666 XMP

CPU: i7-9800x @ 4.6GHz (custom water cooling system)
GPU: 1x AMD Vega Pro Frontier Edition (water cooled)
Hard drives: System Samsung 970Pro NVME, AV-Projects 1TB (4x Intel P7600 512GB VROC), 4x 2.5" Hotswap bays, 1x 3.5" Hotswap Bay, 1x LG BluRay Burner

PSU: Corsair 1200W
Monitor: 2x Dell Ultrasharp U2713HM (2560x1440)

TheLaw wrote on 5/3/2016, 2:20 PM
Thanks - I saw it. But it was hard to gauge compared to other cards. Apparently the low end card (the R7 370) provides the same as the much more expensive card (R9) and the R7 370 is supposedly a now pretty old GPU. Given power consumption numbers too I am left wondering as to the overall benefits if I'm only editing video a handful of times per month and can better appreciate why some have dedicated machines for the task when they edit professionally on a regular basis. Same goes with me for music, but that's a much easier task being less intensive.

Might be better to just keep the old 560ti along with the 3770k and eventually make that the dedicated machine and use the money for a new architecture that is worthwhile - and until the video software situation becomes clear. It's a rendering/preview only benefit with nothing for encoding, which is pure CPU. I guess it will be wait and see and hold onto Vegas 12 until the picture becomes clearer.... eventually.
OldSmoke wrote on 5/3/2016, 4:10 PM
With 3770K it might be a good choice to stay with what you have as the MB for it doesn't support PCIe 3.0. You could try and get a GTX580 of eBay which will make some a difference and is not that expensive to get but also consumes a bit more power. The advantage with the older cards is that SONY AVC and MC AVC encoding is fast. As long as you are not into 4K and want Best/Full preview without proxies then you are good to go.

Proud owner of Sony Vegas Pro 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 & 13 and now Magix VP15&16.

System Spec.:
Motherboard: ASUS X299 Prime-A

Ram: G.Skill 4x8GB DDR4 2666 XMP

CPU: i7-9800x @ 4.6GHz (custom water cooling system)
GPU: 1x AMD Vega Pro Frontier Edition (water cooled)
Hard drives: System Samsung 970Pro NVME, AV-Projects 1TB (4x Intel P7600 512GB VROC), 4x 2.5" Hotswap bays, 1x 3.5" Hotswap Bay, 1x LG BluRay Burner

PSU: Corsair 1200W
Monitor: 2x Dell Ultrasharp U2713HM (2560x1440)

TheLaw wrote on 5/4/2016, 9:18 AM
Yes, that's good advice. Although reading someone else's i5 comparison just now makes me realize that the i7-3770k will render about as fast or faster than even a GTX 580 and, even if slightly slower, will probably result in somewhat better rendering. The only real benefit will come in the preview mode where a video card should help and where the built in video can stutter in HD mode and crawl when you have some filters. Will have to wait and see what Sony plans to do or buy a lower power video card that primarily helps with rendering. Thanks again.
OldSmoke wrote on 5/4/2016, 10:16 AM
Although reading someone else's i5 comparison just now makes me realize that the i7-3770k will render about as fast or faster than even a GTX 580

That is just nonsense. I had a GTX580 and it is the fastest render when using MC AVC with CUDA enabled, nothing beats it. I cold even see a good 10% performance improvement on my machine when switching from the GTX570 to the 580.

If you want better timeline performance in Vega, you actually need an AMD card. Unfortunately the older PCIe 2.0 AMD cards where not as good as the GTX580.

What is/are your most common render format(s)?

Proud owner of Sony Vegas Pro 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 & 13 and now Magix VP15&16.

System Spec.:
Motherboard: ASUS X299 Prime-A

Ram: G.Skill 4x8GB DDR4 2666 XMP

CPU: i7-9800x @ 4.6GHz (custom water cooling system)
GPU: 1x AMD Vega Pro Frontier Edition (water cooled)
Hard drives: System Samsung 970Pro NVME, AV-Projects 1TB (4x Intel P7600 512GB VROC), 4x 2.5" Hotswap bays, 1x 3.5" Hotswap Bay, 1x LG BluRay Burner

PSU: Corsair 1200W
Monitor: 2x Dell Ultrasharp U2713HM (2560x1440)