WOT: Another Pet Peeve

Jay Gladwell wrote on 9/10/2010, 11:09 AM

John Cline has a pet peeve about people using “prolly” for probably.

My pet peeve is when people misuse the words “then” and “than” (usually the abusers use then when they should use than).

“Than” is used comparatively to introduce the second item in an unequal comparison.

He is taller than I am.

She behaves better at home than she does at school.

Some people here are more cantankerous than others.

Avid is more expensive than Vegas Pro.

“Then” is used as a time marker, meaning ‘at that time,’ or with a sequence of events.

Look over your expenses first, and then decide if you can afford the upgrade.

He didn’t like the movie, but then he has discriminating taste in films.

We’ll meet again next Tuesday, but until then, be safe!

He polished off the wine, stripped to his shorts, then jumped in the pool.

Hope this helps.


Comments

Chienworks wrote on 9/10/2010, 11:23 AM
Then/than has always grated on my nerves, as has there/their/they're. Probably the one that gets me the worst is people who not only get me/I wrong, but also "correct" others who had it right in the first place.

But, on the subject of "prolly" ... it is a word. It can be spelled and pronounced and it has a meaning. That makes it a word, plain and simple. If enough people use it and understand it's use it becomes a proper word and enters the language. Eventually with enough usage those who document the language will include it in their tomes (dictionaries). Note that i said "document", not "define". The people who use the language define it. Dictionaries merely document those definitions; they don't create them.

As i get older i get less hung up on the technicalities of language. Language is meant for the people to use for communication. People are not made to be exemplary users of some particular language specification. Yes, grammar and spelling are important. Note also that misspelling and misuse of grammar are also important, when that facilitates the meaning better than proper usage does.

"Prolly" has a very nice, homey, casual feel to it. If the writer wishes to convey this feeling then using "prolly" accomplishes the job much better than "probably" does.

Note that in my own writing i use lowercase "i" for the first person pronoun. It's not laziness, nor a keyboard error, as is evidenced by the first letter of this sentence. It's a purely personal conviction that others are more important than i am, and i remind myself of that by not capitalizing my pronoun. Is it grammatically incorrect? Perhaps. Does it help me express myself better? Yes. Language is about expression, not about rules.

Was this diatribe necessary? Prolly not. ;)
kairosmatt wrote on 9/10/2010, 11:28 AM
Then what if i think YOU are more important than i?

kairosmatt
Chienworks wrote on 9/10/2010, 11:36 AM
Then that's your own personal problem! :p

And ... shouldn't that be "more important than me"? ;)
i suppose it depends on whether there is an implied verb after the object or not. That case is somewhat of a gray area.
kairosmatt wrote on 9/10/2010, 11:42 AM
YOU and i may disagree...but for me i like it that way ;)

(truth be told i did have to think about it though....)
RalphM wrote on 9/10/2010, 12:29 PM
"He polished off the wine, stripped to his shorts, then jumped in the pool."

I'm much more fascinated by the imagination that produced this example....
Laurence wrote on 9/10/2010, 12:45 PM
Ending a sentence with a preposition:

"Where is she at."

improved:

"Where is she at, bitch!" ;-)
john_dennis wrote on 9/10/2010, 12:49 PM
While sitting in the jungle in South Viet Nam reading a letter from my wife, I was amazed that she managed to use there and their incorrectly in the same letter. Not wishing to have her make a fool of herself in front of others, I wrote her a letter containing the correct usage of the words.

That was the last time I corrected my wife of forty-two years. Recently, she has been mixing the usage of the words merge and purge. I wince every time I hear her use either of those words but I've gotten smarter with age.

I also have some pet peeves that i'll keep to myself.
kairosmatt wrote on 9/10/2010, 1:02 PM
Laurance,

I think your last example has too many words. Try dropping the...."is"
Former user wrote on 9/10/2010, 2:49 PM
Laurence, I know what you mean.

There's a scene in "Designing Women" that cracks me up:

Charlene: "Where ya'll from?"
Snotty customer: "Where I'm from we don't end our sentences in prepositions..."
Charlene" "Okay then, where ya'll from, bitch?

Gotta laugh ;-)

Jim
Tom Pauncz wrote on 9/10/2010, 8:24 PM
Hmmmm ...

Mine is "OFF OF" .. Grrrrr!

Tom
Steve Mann wrote on 9/10/2010, 9:06 PM
Compared to Engineers, youse guys is alliterates.

Coursedesign wrote on 9/10/2010, 9:09 PM
When Winston Churchill worked as a war correspondent sending dispatches from the field to a London newspaper, his editor sent him an angry missive ordering him to never end a sentence with a preposition (something he often did).

Winston promptly replied by telegram, "THAT IS AN IMPOSITION UP WITH WHICH I SHALL NOT PUT."
rs170a wrote on 9/10/2010, 9:15 PM
I "seen" you/him/them...
CRINGE!!

Mike
Grazie wrote on 9/10/2010, 10:00 PM
This is the one I'm often guilty:-

"[i]The subject of a sentence and the principal verb should not, as a rule, be separated by a phrase or clause that can be transferred to the beginning.[/I]"

Grazie
mtntvguy wrote on 9/10/2010, 10:11 PM
A lot of people seem to say allot when they mean a lot, but they don't mean allot.

But they prolly think their using it properly, to.

On my computer, "prolly" gets a red underline when I type it.

To John Dennis: You must really be old to have been married when you were in Vietnam, because I'm old and I turned 18 and 19 while I was there.

Ooo-rah,
"Doc,"
I-Corps, '66 to '68.
john_dennis wrote on 9/10/2010, 10:47 PM
198th Light Infantry Brigade in the Rocket Pocket west of Chu Lai and North to Tam Ky, October 1968-March 1969. Around An Khe March, 1969 - October, 1969. I didn't think I was that old until you mentioned it.
fotofreak99 wrote on 9/10/2010, 10:48 PM
My peeve is people who can't spell ridiculous.

I hate seeing "rediculous".

:-)
farss wrote on 9/10/2010, 10:55 PM
My pet peeve is people who have pet peeves :)
If ever there was cause to quote the all too oftenly quoted "content is king", surely this is it.

Bob.
craftech wrote on 9/11/2010, 3:40 AM
I think UR rite 1 hunnert pucent Jay !!

John
CorTed wrote on 9/11/2010, 7:57 AM
I can't stand some people who feel the need to swap letters

Can I aks you something.........??????
John_Cline wrote on 9/11/2010, 10:59 AM
My other pet peeve is people not knowing when to use "less" and "fewer." I hear and read advertisements all the time that just flat-out get it wrong.

The rule is pretty simple; use "fewer" to describe countable things. Use "less" to describe uncountable quantities, collective amounts, and degree. These terms are not interchangeable. If you can substitute "much" as the modifier, then use "less;" if you can substitute "many," use "fewer."

Fewer apples, less applesauce.
Fewer law suits result in less litigation.
Although sand may be technically countable, no one ever does; hence, the less sand we find in our beach bag, the better.
The estate is valued at less than a million dollars. (Consider “a million dollars” a collective noun unless you plan to count specific dollar bills.)
Former user wrote on 9/11/2010, 11:15 AM
"loose" and "lose"

Dave T2
Opampman wrote on 9/11/2010, 1:00 PM
How about "your" being used instead of "you're"
winrockpost wrote on 9/11/2010, 1:14 PM
musta bin a slo werk wk