WOT - loss of privacy

vicmilt wrote on 12/30/2007, 6:07 PM

The USA and England have fallen to "Endemic surveillance societies" - right up there with China and Russia.

For a full explantion including YOUR country's rank, check out:
http://www.privacyinternational.org/article.shtml?cmd[347]=x-347-559597

It's certainly an interesting read on your own life, privacy and the protection thereof.

v

Comments

Grazie wrote on 12/31/2007, 12:23 AM

Vic? Do I dare click on your link to it? Do I?

G

TheHappyFriar wrote on 12/31/2007, 4:51 AM

from the articles I've read, england has been there for at least a few years while the US is trying to get here.

It's like a james bond book, except the other way around. ;)

craftech wrote on 12/31/2007, 6:29 AM

At least England has the BBC which largely works in the public interest. Here in the US (as I have demonstrated with detailed examples in the past) we don't have a single news media outlet that does so. With the recent secret relaxation of FCC rules two weeks ago railroaded through by the Republicans cross ownership across the board will be legal, past violations forgiven, and further media consolidation inevitable.

When the news media convinces the public to elect the Republican nominee as president the Republican legislation I observe by watching the US House and Senate live that has fostered the loss of privacy will be stepped up to an irreversible state.

Having control of the news media corporations (who will now own most of the nations newspapers as well as radio and TV news) the Republicans will do what those like myself who are aware of what is happening know they are planning. That is control of the final leak - the internet.

"Net Neutrality" will be sold to a hapless population as being "bad for them" and the same corporations who have successfully brainwashed all but roughly 20 percent of the population will also control the internet. Then there will be no place to turn for the truth.

John

Dan Sherman wrote on 12/31/2007, 1:56 PM

Problem is you have those Democrats and Repbulicans.
What you need are Liberals and Conservatives like we have up here in Canada, glorious and free..
Things are a lot freer under this Parliamentary Democracy of ours..
Well except for the odd intrusion into our privacy by Sgt Preston and his Royal Canadi ahaahaahaaaaaahhhhhhhnnnnnnnnnnnnn Mounnnnttteddd!!! 958ewai7treuail;sp;fdtiaru2miih90uuereweiufknxn' dikdi988437463283988776*&^^%$$#^&*()_
Whoops, sorry, tazered again!!!!
When will I learn.
The Mounties are watching, and listening.

farss wrote on 12/31/2007, 3:56 PM

I noted that one of the things I'm involved in down here rated a mention, the sale of de-identified medical records. Infamy at last I guess.
But all joking aside, many of these issues are two edged swords and ones that need serious, informed, intelligent, public debate. As noted above the possibility there being an intelligent public is pretty remote and an informed one less and less likely. One of the oddities of humanity I've noted in my travels is the level of political debate is inversely proportional to the wealth of the country.

Bob.

craftech wrote on 12/31/2007, 5:45 PM

One of the oddities of humanity I've noted in my travels is the level of political debate is inversely proportional to the wealth of the country.
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Ha Ha Ha - I love it Bob.

Happy new year!

John

DGates wrote on 12/31/2007, 6:28 PM

So Vic, it looks like half the world is at the 'endemic' level?

And the countries that are the best? The ones that are so poor they can't even afford to install surveillance cameras. Either that, or they're so barren there's no one to spy on.