It's a pain in the arse b/c it effects the entire track - not just the event.

Place the effect on it's own track so that you don't have to worry about it affecting anything else. I've done Vegas projects with 20 or more tracks, alot of them with only one or two clips on them. Vegas doesn't care :-)

Mike

When using track motion, I always copy/paste "unaltered" keyframes directly before and directly after the clip of interest. I can then alter the track motion for the clip itself and not be concerned about affecting clips that I might insert at other locations along the T/L of that track.

That's a good idea. What if you drag clips around the timeline, though? Seems like it will get messy.

I know I can do this but it would be alot easier if I didn't have to use track motion. As it is I already have about 15 video tracks and the more you add the more confusing it gets.

How about this: Use the motion EFFECT in a separate VEG and NEST that into the headline Veg. This ways you KNOW that the TM is restricted to solely THAT Event - DONE! You can move it about, mix it up with the Headline Veggie? Neat and petite!

Yes it is possible. Just use Pan/Crop instead. However, to make the image smaller, you have to make the Pan/Crop window BIGGER. Then you can move the Pan/Crop window around to position it.

Ah, Edward, I took our friend's comment, "I cannot see how this is possible in Vegas w/o resorting to doing it on a track-level with track motion. " that P/C had been used, and that it wasn't sufficient? But there again . . .

Yeah, try the Event's Pan/Crop.

I don't think that you understand the effect that I'm looking for. I'm very familiar with pan/crop and track motion. Imagine a photo on the screen that takes up 25% of the screen on the first keyframe and 25% of the screen on the last keyframe. It does not change size on the screen. However, while remaining the same size you slowly zoom into the image (remember - it stays at 25% size).

I need medication. . . . . And yes I don't understand. How can you zoom into an image and it still remain at the same % of the total screen? Please give another example/analogy?

Perhaps this is another job for cookie cutter .

Put the cookie cutter on the same track as the image. Size and position it appropriately. Zoom into the image.

The overall size of the image will not change

Yea, you're needing to use masking here, cookie cutter or another track with a box mask where you want it to show that is set to multiply mask and then just make a track below it panning and cropping to your hearts content and dedicate those two tracks to that bit.

You can find a quick example here (It's Vegas 7)

Dave

I don't think that you understand the effect that I'm looking for. I'm very familiar with pan/crop and track motion. Imagine a photo on the screen that takes up 25% of the screen on the first keyframe and 25% of the screen on the last keyframe. It does not change size on the screen. However, while remaining the same size you slowly zoom into the image (remember - it stays at 25% size).

The typical way you would do that is to do the "zooming" using Pan/Crop and the resizing to 25% and positioning using Track Motion. Don't think you can really get away from using Track Motion for this one UNLESS you use nested VEG files.

How about this?
Get your keyframes set up properly on the still and render it as an AVI.
Now replace the original image with this new clip and shrink to fit.
You know have the image shrunk to 25% and zooming in as required without having to go through any more headaches :-)
And don't worry about image degradation from a re-render. The DV codec in Vegas is very good. If you are concerned, render it out as an uncompressed AVI.

Mike

OK - I've been working on this and am getting comfortable with keyframing track motion and combining with pan/crop. I wish there was a way to do it all solely within pan/crop but it just isn't possible right now. Thanks for the help.

Thanks for the suggestion. That's way too much work for me though. I am constantly tweaking things, changing zoom, pan, etc. To have to re-render every time I make a change would be prohibitive. I like to render only once - when I'm done!

. . and I still have no idea what you are trying to achieve?

That's way too much work for me though. I am constantly tweaking things...

Assuming this was directed at my response (hard to tell in non-threaded view), you could save the technique as a veg file with a set of tweaks. Drop the file on the timeline and, if you want to change it, all you have to do is right click, Edit SOurce Project, re-save it and it's updated instantly.

Mike

'still sounds like a job for cookie cutter!!!

To me, this is a classic example of how Track Motion and Pan Crop are designed to be used together. Track Motion to reduce size and set the position of the PIP and Pan/Crop to move around within the frame. There are some overlapping functions that both TM and PC can do, but to place and size a PIP, AND zoom in and around the now smaller picture, its so easy using both TM and P/C in combination.

Many editors, as stated, would put the event on its own track, but Track Motion can be keyframed so that only that event is affected by those settings, and the rest of the track can remain unaffected, full frame or whatever.

. .and I STILL don't get it? I still don;t understand what the finished thing is supposed to be? It is driving me NUTZ!!

Could somebody put me out of my misery on this and send me a screen grab<>veg<>medication - please?

Grazie - imagine a screen where you zoom in and pan around the image using Pan/Crop.

Now reduce the size of that screen and place it in the bottom left hand corner of another piece of video. That's it ...... I think.