Do you use an GTX 1080 Ti or an RTX 2080 Ti? Or another card?

So cool to see Vegas being mentioned again and working in collaboration with others, especially with companies such as NVIDIA. Back in late V13 days, it often felt like we were left by the side of the road and watched the world go by. So different now!

"Available today, the latest NVIDIA Studio Driver provides optimal support for the latest releases of top creative applications including Magix VEGAS Pro v17, Autodesk Arnold, Allegorithmic Substance Painter 2019.2, Blender 2.80, Cinema 4D R21, and Otoy Octane Render 2019.2."

We are always in good contact with NVIDIA, AMD and Intel. Some bugs can only be solved by the graphics card manufacturers.

Do you use an GTX 1080 Ti or an RTX 2080 Ti? Or another card?

When you are asking me, all is listed in my signature.

@VEGASPascal

"Available today, the latest NVIDIA Studio Driver provides optimal support for the latest releases of top creative applications including Magix VEGAS Pro v17
We are always in good contact with NVIDIA, AMD and Intel.

Is there also an improvement for Vegas Pro 16 and Vegas Pro 15?

@VEGASPascal

"Available today, the latest NVIDIA Studio Driver provides optimal support for the latest releases of top creative applications including Magix VEGAS Pro v17
We are always in good contact with NVIDIA, AMD and Intel.

Is there also an improvement for Vegas Pro 16 and Vegas Pro 15?

Yes. Stability.

@VEGASPascal @walter-i. @bitman

Actually its still worse in some ways, less stable. For example while using the original “Red Car” benchmark, this new Studio driver (same issue with the previous Studio driver) causes the same freeze issue, if after playing, you pause within region 5 or to the right of.

You have to use task manager and kill VP to exit.

Using the latest gaming driver fixes it on my laptop.

Its possible that updating to Win 1903 may be involved, maybe it wasn’t an issue with previous Win version.

@VEGASPascal @walter-i. @bitman

Actually its still worse in some ways, less stable. For example while using the original “Red Car” benchmark, this new Studio driver (same issue with the previous Studio driver) causes the same freeze issue, if after playing, you pause within region 5 or to the right of.

You have to use task manager and kill VP to exit.

Using the latest gaming driver fixes it.

Its possible that updating to Win 1903 may be involved, maybe it wasn’t an issue with previous Win version.

This would be something we should communicate with NVIDIA

Actually its still worse in some ways, less stable. For example while using the original “Red Car” benchmark, this new Studio driver (same issue with the previous Studio driver) causes the same freeze issue, if after playing, you pause within region 5 or to the right of.

Not with me, but maybe I'm doing something wrong?
Look at the screenplay on my laptop from signature, first I play the whole project and than after a pauze starting playing again at ~ region 5

@VEGASPascal I mentioned this in a previous post, cannot locate it, another user had same issue. I found that this Studio version with freeze + Red Car playback freeze also existed on my old PC that has only 1803 and did exist on my new PC and laptop which both have 1903.

So I tried today the very latest Studio driver on my laptop, which wasn’t freezing, gaming driver, and it’s now back to freeze issue, conditions required to bring it about mentioned in my previous post above.

“Not with me, but maybe I'm doing something wrong?” Thats correct. Yes @j-v as I recall you said the same in the previous thread where I brought this issue up. Please read my comments above, it only happens when you pause, stop, and then attempt to play again, I use the space bar to pause and replay from same position.

The video clip you give above doesn’t test the issue as you don’t attempt to pause, it just plays from start to finish, I can also do that without any issue.

@VEGASPascal Found the thread, its on page 3, third post from the bottom, its tied into @Grazie's problem when testing his new Monsta.

https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/feature-request-standardized-4k-test-project--116193/?page=3

Below is quote from my post in above thread ...

“The reason I speculate above is because I experience the exact same freeze, in the Red Car test around the time since I’ve upgraded to Windows update 1903. I have to kill VP each time with Task Manager.

The freeze occurs when I press playback, play for a good while then pause, then freezes.

I decided to try to fix it yesterday evening. On my laptop which only exposes the Gtx 1070, (Intel is onboard the cpu but not available) it went away by changing from the latest Nvidia creators driver to the latest Gaming driver.

This driver change didn’t work on my new and old PC's. To fix it on them I simply switched HW Acc. to Intel.

The freeze doesn’t appear on playback of other media I tested so far, only the Red Car test.”

The Win 1803-1903 might be a red herring, probably just a Nvidia Studio driver issue.

To summarise .. changing the driver from Studio to gaming fixed it on my laptop but not on my PC's.

I fixed the issue on my PC's by using the Intel HW Acceleration.

Grazie couldn’t resolve his Monsta issue this way because of no iGPU.

The video clip you give above doesn’t test the issue as you don’t attempt to pause, it just plays from start to finish, I can also do that without any issue.

Maybe you must read my comment better and look better to the video.
The video shows from 0-63 sec the total play and than I played again stopt by pausing and than from 63 sec onward to the end. I only showed that second part from pauze till nearly end in my video, because I'm on vacation here in Norway with a not so fast internet connection as at home, thatswhy I keep the screenplays showed here at short as possible.
But maybe I do it all wrong, let it be, it doesn't bother me, I'm satisfied with this.

@j-v I watched your video twice, it simply plays from start to end, no pause or stop, so you’re not testing the issue.

After playing the full Red Car duration of 1:05s with no attempt to pause, stop and replay you then play a second piece starting just before region 5, again you fail to attempt to pause, stop and replay either within or after region 5.

”But maybe I do it all wrong” correct.

To anyone else who cares to test for this issue do the following ...

Start playback from the START of the original Red Car project, pause/stop playback either within or after region 5, then attempt to resume playback from that position. See if this causes an issue, freezing whatever.

@Ehemaliger User
I must believe I'm going to be mad or something.
To prove it to me I made a new video where you can see now the Transport Bar for looking at what I'm doing.
Please point exactly at the second where I'm not doing what you meant I did not do it the way I have to test this as you probably did but afaik never showed to the community.

@j-v You did the test correctly now in this last video clip. You don’t experience the issue.

If I attempt to do the exact same playback and stop, first point being at 33s it immediately freezes. So I don’t get to go any further. i.e. 33s 36s 42s move to 26s stop at 51s then back to 26s.

I'll leave the studio driver in place on my laptop until VP17 comes out, then test. If it’s still freezing i’ll roll back to the latest gaming driver which fixes it for VP16, probably also fix it if needed for VP17.

This similar freezing issue is what Grazie had also.

This similar freezing issue is what Grazie had also.

and, and, and????
What does that say?

? u 2.

? u 2.

Than this looks to me a strange comment.

Why strange? Two users have a similar issue in the same region in the project, pointing to most likely a Studio Nvidia driver issue, as I can resolve it by using Intel iGpu and rolling back to Nvidia Gaming Driver.

That you don’t have the issue doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist.

It was thanks to my having this issue with my 3 machines that I was able to resolve Grazies dilemma somewhat, at least he knew it wasn’t his PC. So that allowed him to move on.

@j-v

@diverG Appears to have had similar issues, this is a quote from his post in this thread ... https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/red-car-stress-test-render-interlace-or-progressive--116252/

I've emphasised a small section...

“Grazie: Just tried changing interlace to progressive for render test & get 16sec.  About 5 sec faster than rendering interlaced.

Had same trouble as you with latest drivers and defaulted to '' which was supplied with the card.  This driver also works well with VP14.  Later drivers also cause lock up when trying to 'stop' when playing the timeline.  The nVidia site does not list older drivers.  ie 12 months or so back so limited in choice, so no chance to explorer slightly newer drivers.

Edit: When the test was first set up (days of VP11?) then 1080i would be required for BD's 1920x1080i was preferred to 1280x720p which was also OK for BD's. Hence the interlaced render. My how time flies.”

vkmast then went on to give this link for older drivers... https://www.guru3d.com/files-categories/videocards-nvidia-geforce-vista-|-7.html

@Ehemaliger User
My last reaction on this subject and post.
There are thousands of Windows installations, each with its own or copied specialities and settings.
Therefore I think it is for developpers very difficult to make software and/or drivers that everywhere behaves the same way.
For me it does not mean that something that does not work as hoped is an issue or fault for a majority or minoraty of users, but only has maybe the need of some tweaks or settings change.
That's the way I set up my system until I think to get the maximum of its possibilities for the most used software and that says nothing about the behaviour of other types of software on the same systems.
 

@Ehemaliger User
For me it does not mean that something that does not work as hoped is an issue or fault for a majority or minoraty of users, but only has maybe the need of some tweaks or settings change.
That's the way I set up my system until I think to get the maximum of its possibilities for the most used software and that says nothing about the behaviour of other types of software on the same systems.
 

What problems did you have with vegas originally that you were able to fix, and how did you fix them?