3CCD or CMOS Sensor in ProSumer Camcorders

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LReavis wrote on 4/13/2008, 9:56 PM
actually, the HC1 also has manual control of audio gain (but not independent control of left & right channels), and I use it on my 2 HC1s on almost every shot; that's the main reason that I chose the HC1 in the first place (you can still get good used HC1s on ebay for under $1000 - still a great bargain, IMHO).

Most of my shots are in a studio setting, so I have never had a problem with plugs getting pulled out. Nor have I ever had a problem with hum after I started using my wireless system - it has a very short lead running to the 1/8" audio input jack, too short, apparently to pick up hum. I use a cheap wireless mic system that does not have a great signal-to-noise ratio, but in the studio I close-mic (following the old saying that "a poor mic close to the mouth is better than a good mic farther away) by hanging the mic from eyeglasses. I usually get about 52 db S/N ratio, or better, and use the Track Noise Gate with Threshold level set to about -48 db. The result: rather good sound with outstanding apparent S/N ratio.

When outdoors, there almost always is so much ambient noise that it masks the internal white noise generated by the cheap electronics in the wireless system. It's a 2-mic system, so I use a cheap wired short hand-held shotgun when I need to shoot a group shot. Since it is outdoors and away from must 120VAC circuits, I can't remember picking up any hum. It even works fairly well indoors for a group, and - again - the abient noise of the group masks the white noise of the shotgun mic; and the short wire I use indoors picks up no hum (hum definitely would be a problem if I tried to run, say, a 10' unbalanced cable to the mic while indoors - unless I flipped off the main breaker!)..

I own and have used mics with XLR connections in years past, but I by learning work-arounds, I don't miss those combersome peripherals. I can hear the difference when good mics are used, but barely; personally, I don't think the incremental improvement in audio provided by expensive mics adds much to the finished video.

The manual controls for the video on the HC1 are OK for my needs (there's no independent aperture control; but it does have a manual "brightness" gain control with zebra stripes, and of course it allows manual white balance), and the remote control through LANC (I use the Varizoom, but wish I had bought one of the smaller, lighter alternatives) for focus & zoom makes living with the tedious controls typical of all small camcorders a whole lot more tolerable. The image produce by the HC1 is still competitive with newer cheap (under $2000) camcorders.

My advice: get one or a couple used HC1s and a tolerable wireless lav system, shotgun, a decent LANC control for focus & zoom, and spend the money saved on a tripod that won't drive you nuts every time you use it.
johnmeyer wrote on 4/13/2008, 10:34 PM
I began my photographic career in the late 1950s with a pre-war Contax with a Zeiss Ikon Sonnar lens. I still have that camera, as you can see:



In the early 1970s, another camera with the Contax name and Zeiss lenses appeared, but the quality was vastly inferior.

Much of the story of how Zeiss evolved, and why some Zeiss lenses are great and others are not, can be found at Wikipedia:

Zeiss
Bit Of Byte wrote on 4/14/2008, 1:00 AM
thanks boys.

So, in your opinon - do u think the HC10 has or does not have the genuine Carl Zeiss lens - how to tell?

Bit
Rory Cooper wrote on 4/14/2008, 7:45 AM
Which way - 3CCD or CMOS?


sorry guys but what was the answer again?
owlsroost wrote on 4/15/2008, 1:27 AM
Basically, it's irrelevant (as is the name on the lens barrel) - what matters is what comes out at the end.

The Sony HC3 (predecessor to the HC5) I have produces video that's visibly better - even when downconverted to SD in the camcorder - than any of the 5 camcorders I've owned before (Pana NV-DX100/Sony TRV33/Pana MX500/Canon MVX25i - the two Pana's were 3 CCD). And it's stunning in native HD of course....

It's sharp, properly colour balanced, not over-saturated and even half decent in low light. The sound from the on-board mics is pretty good too.

I don't even know if it says 'Zeiss' on the lens barrel.....if the lens maker bothers you then Nikon/Canon/Fujinon/Pentax/Minolta etc are the big boys in camera lenses these days, not the historical European manufacturers.

Tony



Bit Of Byte wrote on 4/15/2008, 1:40 AM
Thanks Tony.

What camera model do u use now?

Bit
John_Cline wrote on 4/15/2008, 1:49 AM
Pay attention, he said that he has a Sony HC3.
Rory Cooper wrote on 4/15/2008, 7:08 AM
yes pay attention if you scroll up you will even see a pic of it.