A HUGE RISK, PLEASE ACT NOW!

aboammar wrote on 5/4/2016, 8:09 AM

As many of you know, SCS is very likely going to pull the plug and killing Vegas Pro because of very low demands! I know that there are a huge numbers of Vegas Pro users worldwide, but it is either an old version, or a pirated copy, and this is hurting SCS so badly to the extent of maybe having no other choice but to kill Vegas Pro.

So I beg you to help keeping Vegas Pro alive by supporting SCS to continue developing it by:
1- Buying original copy, for those who do not own it yet.
2- Upgrade to version 13 even if you are fully satisfied with your current version.
3- Signing this important petition: www.ipetitions.com/petition/keep-vegas-alive.
4- Making as much people as possible aware of the petition and of this critical situation by spreading the word in all Vegas forums and all other social networking websites such as Facebook and Twitter.

Your action is highly appreciated and it will make a huge difference ...Thank you.

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VMP wrote on 5/8/2016, 6:42 AM

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Ask technical support:

Chat: https://www.custcenter.com/app/chat/chat_launch
Email support: http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/techsupport

Now that Peter is no longer here, don't expect any other SCS member to look or answer any questions here.

That is what the technical support is for.

Asking these kinds of questions to Vegas users here (who are not official members of SCS) would give you zero results. I am saying this to myself too.

VMP

Grazie wrote on 5/8/2016, 7:22 AM

Understood, VMP, understood.

OldSmoke wrote on 5/8/2016, 7:37 AM

@VMP
Ask MS support about problems with Win XP. Once a software has reached EOL, the support will fade soon after that.

musicvid10 wrote on 5/8/2016, 7:59 AM

Kind of wonder why a customer of Sony would think they are part of EITHER the solution or the problem.
History has long since proven otherwise. Neither the authority nor the responsibility for what comes to pass now rests with Sony's customers, save for the few who are also shareholders.

Naive narcissism and grandiose thinking aren't going to change that; it is a compelling commentary that the public response to the rumors have come about in the form of a petition rather than investment pooling or a crowd sourcing project.

I think that Sony should merely give away the division to its "loyal" user base, who will then have all of the authority and none of the responsibility, as a few demanding chest-thumpers would seem to wish. Only then will the future become certain.

John222 wrote on 5/8/2016, 8:09 AM

"As many of you know, SCS is very likely going to pull the plug and killing Vegas Pro because of very low demands! I know that there are a huge numbers of Vegas Pro users worldwide, but it is either an old version, or a pirated copy, and this is hurting SCS so badly to the extent of maybe having no other choice but to kill Vegas Pro."

It seems to me, they need to address why there is low demand. I'm still on 11, because each new revision has brought very little to the table. Both Hitfilm & Resolve have free versions with very good trackers to animate mask and color keying. Others here have proposed many improvements to Vegas, but Sony has chosen to address very few. Even support for GPU rendering and video cards is ancient.

Yes, I know I can buy BCC10 to add tracking and other features, buy why should I have to pay a ton of money for BCC10 to make Vegas whole.

I like Vegas, probably because I learned it first. But I'm not married to it.

aboammar wrote on 5/8/2016, 11:17 AM

Terje .. I am sorry for your bad experience ..I can feel what you are going through because it happened to me once with version 11 and it was so frustrating!

I think you are experiencing a hardware incompatibility problem like what I was facing with v11 and after changing the graphics card, everything changed, and it became rock solid.

I am on v13 and it is very stable in my system .. sure, not as stable as Vegas Pro used to be and was know for, but its stable "more than enough" to be productive with it.

VMP wrote on 5/8/2016, 1:31 PM

OldSmoke,

It was clearly stated by MS that XP was discontinued and will not be supported anymore, to me then it's clear that there will be no support anymore.
Also my XP was the OEM version which has limited support anyway, so I have always solved the problems myself, or did a search on the net.
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When XP was no longer supported, I stepped over to Windows 7, which I am using still now and am very happy with.

SCS on the other hand, has not stated anything about Vegas yet, publicly, even about Acid Pro 7 which is from 2010.
So until any official announcement is made (if ever), one should contact the customer service.

Never presume that they are ever viewing this forum, contact them directly.
The answer you get from them you could consider the final answer.

As final resource you could contact the still active SCS members on Linkdin as well, but not all at the same time obviously:
https://www.linkedin.com/company/sony-creative-software

VMP

John_Cline wrote on 5/8/2016, 5:53 PM

In case SCS does go belly-up (and I don't think it will), it really wouldn't be too difficult to keep the registration server up and running somewhere.

NONE of us know what the future holds for SCS, until something happens, I suggest we all just keep editing video as we always have.

set wrote on 5/8/2016, 6:26 PM

LinkedIn's last update was 7 to 4 months ago...?

DataMeister wrote on 5/8/2016, 7:12 PM

John222 said, "It seems to me, they need to address why there is low demand. I'm still on 11, because each new revision has brought very little to the table. Both Hitfilm & Resolve have free versions with very good trackers to animate mask and color keying."

That reminded me. Back when Lord of the Rings movies were released on DVD they had some behind the scenes footage of a dude motion tracking a face, attaching a mask to the track, and then brightening the face a bit. I immediately requested a similar feature in Vegas (using the online suggestion form). That was over 10 years ago.

set wrote on 5/8/2016, 7:55 PM

That reminded me. Back when Lord of the Rings movies were released on DVD they had some behind the scenes footage of a dude motion tracking a face, attaching a mask to the track, and then brightening the face a bit. I immediately requested a similar feature in Vegas (using the online suggestion form). That was over 10 years ago.

That's still a very exclusive feature that time - but I remember that scene...
It's a DaVinci Resolve before Blackmagic isn't it ?

deusx wrote on 5/9/2016, 2:48 AM

Tracking and all that is not really a NLE job. You use compositing software for that.

Vegas gets criticized because it includes a lot of features that normally aren't a part of editing, then a couple of extra things are missing people call it incomplete.

People who use AVID ( all big studios ) do none of this in AVID, so just download the free version of Fusion and you have everything.

John222 wrote on 5/9/2016, 6:56 AM

Times change and so must software. While I don"t see the need for particle emitters and such in Vegas, simple tracking tools should be a must. As I said before, this stuff is included in Resolve and Hit film. Big studios aren't good examples. Projects are huge and compartmentalized.

Fusion is great. I use it all the time, but shouldn't have to for simple mask tracking.

aboammar wrote on 5/9/2016, 9:34 AM

@set .. you are 100% correct.

John222 .. auto tracking is still part of effects and composition software, and Hitfilm and Resolve are not not a good example, because Hitfilm is originally a composition software, and resolve is originally a grading software. Still yet, it would be nice to have a basic auto tracker in Vegas Pro.

Spectralis wrote on 5/9/2016, 11:18 AM

Vegas has green screen capabilities so tracking tools are entirely appropriate for this kind of NLE. Compositing tools such as Hitfilm and AE introduce 3D capabilities but considering Vegas also has some 3D titling capabilities and integrates with Hitfilm and 3D plugins it crossed the line between being purely an NLE and a compositing tool long ago. If ever such a dividing line really existed in practice.

Signed the petition as it sets out our views in a clear way and in an easy to locate place. If nobody bothers to campaign or lobby for better customer support and treatment from big business then nothing will change and we'll continue to drink contaminated water and suffer pollution from diesel particulates among other decisions driven by the lowest common denominator of profit.

dream1960 wrote on 6/2/2016, 6:56 PM

Good idea!

Vegas is not DEAD! scs has sold it's complete vegas line of software to magix!
This is a good thing. In short i will tell you they will continue with vegas pro & there will be a vegas pro 14 coming this fall !
They are honoring all existing current serial numbers and it will keep moving . So you are correct not to worry about all this false propaganda. I can't believe there are so many story makers on here. They should write a movie...lol

dream1960 wrote on 6/2/2016, 6:57 PM

Terje wrote on 6/30/2016, 2:22 AM

>> changing the graphics card, everything changed

OK, this is probably good advice. I have an nVidia 660 card, so it's probably time to upgrade. Any suggestions?

OldSmoke wrote on 6/30/2016, 6:56 AM

Currently AMD cards from 290X onwards are to favorites but Inwoukd wait until September and see if Magix has improved the GPU support for Nvidia cards.