It happens with some cams and not others. My HV20 captures with no issues while my HC3 has the scenes split consistently 3 frames late. I don't know who is at fault but I do know there are others with this issue.... and yes... it is irritating. Scene splitting with HDVsplit works fine so I know it isn't the cam.

I have not yet captured with V9. However, last month I captured an entire fashion show from my FX1 (HDV) directly to laptop (with the tape running as backup). The connections were solid, and I had scene detection turned off. Despite this, I ended up with several files for each section of the concert, and at least one GOP of frames lost at each file transition. My main audio (from the soundboard) was on this camera, so I had to make it work. When I put the tape in, and captured a few seconds around the interruption, it captured perfectly.

As usual, no background processes running, yada yada.

So, this is definitely a disappointment if they didn't spend some development time to fix these long-standing HDV capture problems.

However, if V9 can now have footage capture by HDV Split that recognized by the Sony plugin (rather than the MainConcept HDV plugin), then that will be a sufficient workaround. The problem in the past is that when you capture with HDV Split, the result is often read by the legacy MainConcept HDV reader, and the timeline performance is 1/5 of what it is when the Sony playback DLL is used.

"So, this is definitely a disappointment if they didn't spend some development time to fix these long-standing HDV capture problems."

This I will agree with you on John. I have always said that the HDV capture utility is weak, lacking and needs work. The last time I brought this up however, I was told by Spot I think it was that HDV was dead and it would be a waste of money to spend time on it.

I always used Cineform for capturing and have had no problems.
JJK

yeah it's pathetic that they haven't sorted it but but be pragmatic and use hdvsplit. it works.

Nick,

I have exactly the same anomaly as Christian. I considered HDVSplit for scene detection but I read several times that these files give problems in Vegas. Did you ever notice this?

Lou

I use HDVsplit all the time in Vegas with no issues. I did have them once upon a time but since I changed the way I capture, I have no issues.

I capture the tape as a whole (no scene detect) with no audio or preview, then I use HDVsplit's scene detect for files option (with audio sync switch OFF) to divide up the tape on the drive. Everything works fine this way for BOTH my hdv cams.

Vegas Capture was also off by a few frames on HDV from my HC1. Using HDVsplit to capture first without scene detect & then a second pass on the mega file to split it by scenes has worked like a champ. The second pass is very quick, so minimal hassle.

Brian

OK,

This is the reason I got HDVSplit, what did you think? So now what happens is:

I have to patch a crippled Pro software's BASIC FUNCTIONALTY (as capturing actually IS) - with an 3rd party hobbyists piece of software that is of version 0.77 and does not work either, unless you FIST capture the whole tape and then later split it into scenes. Aaarghh I say!!! Needless to say Vegas has sometimes a hard time swallowing these clips without hickups. Have not still tried on VP9, though.

This is not very professional, but gets the work done. Albeit with some remarkable EXTRA trouble, with EXTRA time and hard disk space spent...

My critisism IS that SCS knows about this crippled HDV capture - and DOES NOTHING to fix it - from MAJOR version to MAJOR version. That is really BAD.

Yes - I am somewhat MAD but also very dissappointed. This is not professionalism at its best, I would have expected from the guys in Madison a better moral.

SCS is neglecting "smaller" problems and emphasizing on NEW features that actually SELLS better (new products) - at least to NEW customers.

No-one of us would probably just PAY for an upgrade that ONLY has all bugs fixed (or would we ?), since most of us assume that they should be ironed out on SCS's exponse, because THEY made the errors.

But now we PAY for a new version, with the renewed hope that some irritating and frustrating known bugs gets fixed. But NO - we just get new features, and at least a part of us just gives a damn them. Even if we now PAYED for the upgrade - we did not get the errors fixed... AArghh I say.

I would like people to chime in that has this HDV capture error, just for the statistics. Maybe SCS would then listen???

How many have struggeld with this?

I am capturing HDV material from an SONY HDV-HC1E. A Sony product that does not play too well with a - Sony product. I have a bunch of 100 1-hour cassettes I need to process during the summer, clip by clip. Any extra minute or hour pre project is really a disaster. Whe simply I sould be able to capture from the CAM directly an neatly (with scenes split) into the time line. But NOT with Vegas 7, 8 nor 9!!! AArghh I say.

Christian

I guess I've been lucky with HDVSplit. I capture 1080-50i or 1080-60i from my Sony Z1 with scene detection turned on and it works fine for me. I leave the preview off because that caused me some problems.