And yet another question...

megabit wrote on 11/14/2014, 9:44 AM
I spent hours on rendering a lengthy concert movie (in 2 versions - for BD and DVD) only to learn from the client one name is misspelled in the credits roll... Argh!!!

Of course I rendered into m2v, so it's not even readable by Vegas. Does anyone know a trick that would let me mux, demux (or whatever), load into Vegas somehow and [b]smart render[b] iit after correcting a single character in the text?

TIA

Piotr

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john_dennis wrote on 11/14/2014, 10:03 AM
Use tsMuxer to mux the .m2v into a .ts or .m2ts which Vegas will recognize. Smart rendering is another story.
megabit wrote on 11/14/2014, 11:39 AM
I just realized how silly my question (or "solution") has been. In order to edit text in a text generated media track, it's not enough to load the m2v into an editor!

I must sleep longer this coming night; please disregard this thread. Rendering again it's gonna have to be :)

Piotr

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Chienworks wrote on 11/14/2014, 1:04 PM
If you use a smart-rendering program, you could use Vegas to render a new file that is only long enough to include the fixed name, then use the smart rendering program to chop up your first file and replace that part with the new snippet.

Isn't VideoRedo supposed to be able to do this?
john_dennis wrote on 11/14/2014, 1:32 PM
"Isn't VideoRedo supposed to be able to do this?"

Yes, but (at least the MPEG-2 version) doesn't support editing elementery streams.
Kimberly wrote on 11/14/2014, 3:13 PM
How about the following:

1. Trim the file in DVD-A back to the part there the credits roll. You can do this by adjusting your timeline in DVD-A.
2. Re render the credits.
3. Stick the newly rendered piece in DVD-A as a second item in your playlist.

Depending on how you structure your disk you might be able to stick 'em on the same timeline in DVD-A, but otherwise you would have the credits following the feature.

Good luck!
megabit wrote on 11/15/2014, 4:55 AM
Kimberly, that's really a great idea!

The only shortcoming is that it's the roll credits which render for ages (as you certainly know), so the time savings will be marginal...

But otherwise - brilliant. Will certainly keep it in mind for correcting future glitches w/o re-rendering the whole project. Thanks!

Piotr

AMD TR 2990WX CPU | MSI X399 CARBON AC | 64GB RAM@XMP2933  | 2x RTX 2080Ti GPU | 4x 3TB WD Black RAID0 media drive | 3x 1TB NVMe RAID0 cache drive | SSD SATA system drive | AX1600i PSU | Decklink 12G Extreme | Samsung UHD reference monitor (calibrated)

Arthur.S wrote on 11/15/2014, 6:37 AM
This is the main reason I always render out my projects in 'chapters' to a smart renderable format. (In my case MPEG-2 1920x1080 50P). Then render it as a whole to the final delivery format at the end. Great call though Kimberley!
Chienworks wrote on 11/15/2014, 8:47 AM
Great idea for a second playlist item Kimberly!

One caveat though ... since a lot of us try to use the highest bitrate possible to fill the disc, there may not be enough room on the disc to use this method. Shouldn't be a problem for short projects, but it can be a factor for longer ones. And, sadly, the longer projects are the cases where you're more likely to be looking for a shortcut.
Kimberly wrote on 11/15/2014, 9:32 AM
I deliver my content on DVD and BD, and the total disk runs 35ish minutes so not too big.

I work on a boat with a laptop and shoot Monday to Friday and show the disk Friday night. I render the dives for every day into separate files and then do a playlist on the disk. That way if I find a mistake just before showtime, I have to render just that segment. This approach may not work for most people but it's been a lifesaver for me.

This year I'm going to try rendering my titles and credits with transparent backgrounds in separate projects. That way I can render those early in the week and drop them in on my daily segments. Hoping to save some crunch time at the end as well as take better advantage of the NB Titler Pro capabilities.

Good luck with your project : )

Regards,

Kimberly