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Ruby888 wrote on 3/25/2022, 8:51 AM

Do you have an example clip to tinker with? In a google drive or somewhere?

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1uljM6mh7TXehqbjWpzinBwyoKQOseMYq/view?usp=sharing

john_dennis wrote on 3/25/2022, 9:45 AM

@Ruby888

A little bit of Mediainfo would have gone a long way on this effort.

General
Complete name                            : C:\Users\John\Downloads\TEST CLIP VEGAS.mp4
Format                                   : MPEG-4
Format profile                           : Base Media / Version 2
Codec ID                                 : mp42 (isom/mp42)
File size                                : 12.8 MiB
Duration                                 : 8 s 509 ms
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 12.6 Mb/s
Encoded date                             : UTC 2022-03-25 12:59:07
Tagged date                              : UTC 2022-03-25 12:59:07

Video
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : AVC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                           : High@L3.1
Format settings                          : CABAC / 4 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes
Format settings, Reference frames        : 4 frames
Codec ID                                 : avc1
Codec ID/Info                            : Advanced Video Coding
Duration                                 : 8 s 509 ms
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 12.5 Mb/s
Maximum bit rate                         : 20.0 Mb/s
Width                                    : 656 pixels
Height                                   : 496 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 4:3
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Standard                                 : NTSC
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 1.597
Stream size                              : 12.6 MiB (98%)
Language                                 : English
Encoded date                             : UTC 2022-03-25 12:59:09
Tagged date                              : UTC 2022-03-25 12:59:09
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.601 NTSC
Transfer characteristics                 : BT.601
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.601
Codec configuration box                  : avcC

Audio
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : AAC LC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity
Codec ID                                 : mp4a-40-2
Duration                                 : 8 s 491 ms
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 192 kb/s
Maximum bit rate                         : 331 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Channel layout                           : L R
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 46.875 FPS (1024 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 196 KiB (1%)
Language                                 : English
Encoded date                             : UTC 2022-03-25 12:59:07
Tagged date                              : UTC 2022-03-25 12:59:07

 

Ruby888 wrote on 3/25/2022, 9:59 AM

@Ruby888

A little bit of Mediainfo would have gone a long way on this effort.

General
Complete name                            : C:\Users\John\Downloads\TEST CLIP VEGAS.mp4
Format                                   : MPEG-4
Format profile                           : Base Media / Version 2
Codec ID                                 : mp42 (isom/mp42)
File size                                : 12.8 MiB
Duration                                 : 8 s 509 ms
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 12.6 Mb/s
Encoded date                             : UTC 2022-03-25 12:59:07
Tagged date                              : UTC 2022-03-25 12:59:07

Video
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : AVC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                           : High@L3.1
Format settings                          : CABAC / 4 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes
Format settings, Reference frames        : 4 frames
Codec ID                                 : avc1
Codec ID/Info                            : Advanced Video Coding
Duration                                 : 8 s 509 ms
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 12.5 Mb/s
Maximum bit rate                         : 20.0 Mb/s
Width                                    : 656 pixels
Height                                   : 496 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 4:3
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Standard                                 : NTSC
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 1.597
Stream size                              : 12.6 MiB (98%)
Language                                 : English
Encoded date                             : UTC 2022-03-25 12:59:09
Tagged date                              : UTC 2022-03-25 12:59:09
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.601 NTSC
Transfer characteristics                 : BT.601
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.601
Codec configuration box                  : avcC

Audio
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : AAC LC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity
Codec ID                                 : mp4a-40-2
Duration                                 : 8 s 491 ms
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 192 kb/s
Maximum bit rate                         : 331 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Channel layout                           : L R
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 46.875 FPS (1024 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 196 KiB (1%)
Language                                 : English
Encoded date                             : UTC 2022-03-25 12:59:07
Tagged date                              : UTC 2022-03-25 12:59:07

 

That was out of Vegas, this is not:

 

joelsonforte.br wrote on 3/25/2022, 10:00 AM

Try this. You didn't say how or what you're going to use the video for, so I made a screen recording showing how to render the video for viewing on the internet, computers and TV sets via Pen Drive.

The rendering model shown in the previous video will be saved. When you are going to render other videos just use it again.

Ruby888 wrote on 3/25/2022, 10:11 AM

Thank you so much. I will try to do some work later, very bust right now, but thank you gain, its much easier to see it done.

Ruby888 wrote on 3/25/2022, 10:13 AM

Try this. You didn't say how or what you're going to use the video for, so I made a screen recording showing how to render the video for viewing on the internet, computers and TV sets via Pen Drive.

The rendering model shown in the previous video will be saved. When you are going to render other videos just use it again.

I am going to post it on YouTube and Facebook.

3POINT wrote on 3/25/2022, 11:36 AM

When I read correctly the original captured file had this properties:

 

The uploaded file by @Ruby888 is a (wrong resolution, wrong framerate) render with Vegas from above original, (which looks really worse):

 

General
Complete name                            : C:\Users\John\Downloads\TEST CLIP VEGAS.mp4
Format                                   : MPEG-4
Format profile                           : Base Media / Version 2
Codec ID                                 : mp42 (isom/mp42)
File size                                : 12.8 MiB
Duration                                 : 8 s 509 ms
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 12.6 Mb/s
Encoded date                             : UTC 2022-03-25 12:59:07
Tagged date                              : UTC 2022-03-25 12:59:07

Video
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : AVC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                           : High@L3.1
Format settings                          : CABAC / 4 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes
Format settings, Reference frames        : 4 frames
Codec ID                                 : avc1
Codec ID/Info                            : Advanced Video Coding
Duration                                 : 8 s 509 ms
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 12.5 Mb/s
Maximum bit rate                         : 20.0 Mb/s
Width                                    : 656 pixels
Height                                   : 496 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 4:3
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Standard                                 : NTSC
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 1.597
Stream size                              : 12.6 MiB (98%)
Language                                 : English
Encoded date                             : UTC 2022-03-25 12:59:09
Tagged date                              : UTC 2022-03-25 12:59:09
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.601 NTSC
Transfer characteristics                 : BT.601
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.601
Codec configuration box                  : avcC

Audio
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : AAC LC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity
Codec ID                                 : mp4a-40-2
Duration                                 : 8 s 491 ms
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 192 kb/s
Maximum bit rate                         : 331 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Channel layout                           : L R
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 46.875 FPS (1024 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 196 KiB (1%)
Language                                 : English
Encoded date                             : UTC 2022-03-25 12:59:07
Tagged date                              : UTC 2022-03-25 12:59:07

 

 

From this wrong render, @joelsonforte.br shows how to create a customized rendertemplate...

3d87c4 wrote on 3/25/2022, 2:49 PM

@Ruby888

A little bit of Mediainfo would have gone a long way on this effort.

General
Complete name                            : C:\Users\John\Downloads\TEST CLIP VEGAS.mp4
Format                                   : MPEG-4
Format profile                           : Base Media / Version 2
Codec ID                                 : mp42 (isom/mp42)
File size                                : 12.8 MiB
Duration                                 : 8 s 509 ms
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 12.6 Mb/s
Encoded date                             : UTC 2022-03-25 12:59:07
Tagged date                              : UTC 2022-03-25 12:59:07

Video
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : AVC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                           : High@L3.1
Format settings                          : CABAC / 4 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes
Format settings, Reference frames        : 4 frames
Codec ID                                 : avc1
Codec ID/Info                            : Advanced Video Coding
Duration                                 : 8 s 509 ms
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 12.5 Mb/s
Maximum bit rate                         : 20.0 Mb/s
Width                                    : 656 pixels
Height                                   : 496 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 4:3
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Standard                                 : NTSC
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 1.597
Stream size                              : 12.6 MiB (98%)
Language                                 : English
Encoded date                             : UTC 2022-03-25 12:59:09
Tagged date                              : UTC 2022-03-25 12:59:09
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.601 NTSC
Transfer characteristics                 : BT.601
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.601
Codec configuration box                  : avcC

Audio
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : AAC LC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity
Codec ID                                 : mp4a-40-2
Duration                                 : 8 s 491 ms
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 192 kb/s
Maximum bit rate                         : 331 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Channel layout                           : L R
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 46.875 FPS (1024 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 196 KiB (1%)
Language                                 : English
Encoded date                             : UTC 2022-03-25 12:59:07
Tagged date                              : UTC 2022-03-25 12:59:07

 

That was out of Vegas, this is not:

 

Can you share an example of one of the original clips, not one from Vegas?

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Ruby888 wrote on 3/25/2022, 2:59 PM

@Ruby888

A little bit of Mediainfo would have gone a long way on this effort.

General
Complete name                            : C:\Users\John\Downloads\TEST CLIP VEGAS.mp4
Format                                   : MPEG-4
Format profile                           : Base Media / Version 2
Codec ID                                 : mp42 (isom/mp42)
File size                                : 12.8 MiB
Duration                                 : 8 s 509 ms
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 12.6 Mb/s
Encoded date                             : UTC 2022-03-25 12:59:07
Tagged date                              : UTC 2022-03-25 12:59:07

Video
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : AVC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                           : High@L3.1
Format settings                          : CABAC / 4 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes
Format settings, Reference frames        : 4 frames
Codec ID                                 : avc1
Codec ID/Info                            : Advanced Video Coding
Duration                                 : 8 s 509 ms
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 12.5 Mb/s
Maximum bit rate                         : 20.0 Mb/s
Width                                    : 656 pixels
Height                                   : 496 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 4:3
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Standard                                 : NTSC
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 1.597
Stream size                              : 12.6 MiB (98%)
Language                                 : English
Encoded date                             : UTC 2022-03-25 12:59:09
Tagged date                              : UTC 2022-03-25 12:59:09
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.601 NTSC
Transfer characteristics                 : BT.601
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.601
Codec configuration box                  : avcC

Audio
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : AAC LC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity
Codec ID                                 : mp4a-40-2
Duration                                 : 8 s 491 ms
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 192 kb/s
Maximum bit rate                         : 331 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Channel layout                           : L R
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 46.875 FPS (1024 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 196 KiB (1%)
Language                                 : English
Encoded date                             : UTC 2022-03-25 12:59:07
Tagged date                              : UTC 2022-03-25 12:59:07

 

That was out of Vegas, this is not:

 

Can you share an example of one of the original clips, not one from Vegas?

General
Complete name                            : J:\RAW\Office Misc.avi
Format                                   : AVI
Format/Info                              : Audio Video Interleave
Commercial name                          : DVCPRO
Format profile                           : OpenDML
File size                                : 1.11 GiB
Duration                                 : 5 min 31 s
Overall bit rate mode                    : Constant
Overall bit rate                         : 28.8 Mb/s

Video
ID                                       : 0
Format                                   : DV
Commercial name                          : DVCPRO
Duration                                 : 5 min 31 s
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 24.4 Mb/s
Width                                    : 720 pixels
Height                                   : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 4:3
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 29.970 (29970/1000) FPS
Standard                                 : NTSC
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:1:1
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Interlaced
Scan order                               : Bottom Field First
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 2.357
Stream size                              : 1.11 GiB (100%)

Audio #1
ID                                       : 0-0
Format                                   : PCM
Format settings                          : Big / Signed
Muxing mode                              : DV
Muxing mode, more info                   : Muxed in Video #1
Duration                                 : 5 min 31 s
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 768 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Sampling rate                            : 32.0 kHz
Bit depth                                : 12 bits
Stream size                              : 30.4 MiB (3%)

Audio #2
ID                                       : 0-1
Format                                   : PCM
Format settings                          : Big / Signed
Muxing mode                              : DV
Muxing mode, more info                   : Muxed in Video #1
Duration                                 : 5 min 31 s
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 768 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Sampling rate                            : 32.0 kHz
Bit depth                                : 12 bits
Stream size                              : 30.4 MiB (3%)

 

Ruby888 wrote on 3/25/2022, 3:03 PM

and it in MP4 as done by the place that did the conversion. AVI is too large to vegas.

General
Complete name                            : J:\MP4\Pries.mp4
Format                                   : MPEG-4
Format profile                           : Base Media / Version 2
Codec ID                                 : mp42 (mp42/mp41)
File size                                : 4.05 GiB
Duration                                 : 37 min 50 s
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 15.3 Mb/s
Encoded date                             : UTC 2022-02-02 18:50:38
Tagged date                              : UTC 2022-02-02 19:08:24
TIM                                      : 00:00:00:00
TSC                                      : 60000
TSZ                                      : 1001

Video
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : AVC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                           : High@L3.1
Format settings                          : CABAC / 4 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes
Format settings, Reference frames        : 4 frames
Format settings, GOP                     : M=3, N=59
Codec ID                                 : avc1
Codec ID/Info                            : Advanced Video Coding
Duration                                 : 37 min 50 s
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 15.0 Mb/s
Width                                    : 720 pixels
Height                                   : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 4:3
Original display aspect ratio            : 4:3
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 59.940 (60000/1001) FPS
Standard                                 : NTSC
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Interlaced
Scan type, store method                  : Separated fields
Scan order                               : Bottom Field First
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.724
Stream size                              : 3.96 GiB (98%)
Language                                 : English
Encoded date                             : UTC 2022-02-02 18:50:38
Tagged date                              : UTC 2022-02-02 18:50:38
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.601 NTSC
Transfer characteristics                 : BT.601
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.601
Codec configuration box                  : avcC

Audio
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : AAC LC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity
Codec ID                                 : mp4a-40-2
Duration                                 : 37 min 50 s
Source duration                          : 37 min 50 s
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 317 kb/s
Maximum bit rate                         : 529 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Channel layout                           : L R
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 46.875 FPS (1024 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 85.9 MiB (2%)
Source stream size                       : 85.9 MiB (2%)
Language                                 : English
Encoded date                             : UTC 2022-02-02 18:50:38
Tagged date                              : UTC 2022-02-02 18:50:38

 

 

 

3d87c4 wrote on 3/25/2022, 4:10 PM

Please put one, or both, of these into the google drive.

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Processor    13th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-13900H   2.60 GHz
Installed RAM    32.0 GB (31.7 GB usable)
System type    64-bit operating system, x64-based processor
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Edition    Windows 11 Pro
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Driver Version: 31.0.15.2857
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Ruby888 wrote on 3/25/2022, 4:18 PM

I can not put the entire 4.8 GB file up, too large and personal info on there. Is there a way to cut the video I will do that.

3POINT wrote on 3/25/2022, 5:34 PM

I can not put the entire 4.8 GB file up, too large and personal info on there. Is there a way to cut the video I will do that.

There's no need to, your original capture is just normal DV (that's no rocket science).

When I have some time tomorrow I will provide you a correct rendering template. Now I'll go to bed.

Ruby888 wrote on 3/27/2022, 11:22 AM

I can not put the entire 4.8 GB file up, too large and personal info on there. Is there a way to cut the video I will do that.

There's no need to, your original capture is just normal DV (that's no rocket science).

When I have some time tomorrow I will provide you a correct rendering template. Now I'll go to bed.

I can't get this to save, I customize the template, and save it and its no where to be found.

 

 

Ruby888 wrote on 3/27/2022, 11:25 AM

See