Big problems with 9070 XT

OTBW wrote on 4/6/2025, 2:16 AM

Hi all. I just got a 9070 XT after my RTX 3080 died. Running latest version of 22, windows 11, ryzen 7 and 32gb ram. Installed the new card and Vegas Pro has been having constant issues. Slow to respond, the odd crash and just nowhere near as smooth. It will preview videos smoothly on any setting, but moving on the timeline and general use is slow and it will hang regularly. I tried to render a video and get constant glitches and errors in the render. This is generally footage glitching/blurring/looping for periods and also rendering at 0mb. Tried multiple bit rates but hasn't helped. I remember on an older Vegas Pro and graphics card I could only render at a max 50,000,000kb or similar things would happen at rendering, but I don't want to drop in quality when my sources are 100+.

I did the DDU on the nvidia drivers and running latest amd drivers. Anyone able to give any insight? I'm trying to render on my old laptop now and seeing if that has any issues too. Stupidly frustrating, let alone when I have videos to release!

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RogerS wrote on 4/6/2025, 2:47 AM

The issues with glitches and blurring could be media specific? Can you share MediaInfo for media types you are having trouble with? Other AMD users may have advice.

Do you have at least 2x the c drive hard disk space as your render will take? That's one cause of render failures.

OTBW wrote on 4/6/2025, 3:01 AM

Hi thanks for the reply. I'm at work and only got my laptop so can't check with Mediainfo. It is gopro footage at 5k 30, insta360 at 4k 30, drone at 4k 30 and nikon at 4k 30. I've got plenty of HDD space (100gb).

I was just able to render on my laptop which is much less powerful at 90kb max and 75 constant onto my external HDD. Laptop runs smooth as too, bizarre.

RogerS wrote on 4/6/2025, 8:56 AM

I don't know if I've seen any other 9070 XT users (you may be one of the first!) on this forum. It's possible there are driver issues if these issues aren't widespread among AMD users (haven't seen many complaints) as these types of media really should work.

I assume the GPU itself is fine, has enough power and cooling and passes benchmarks (GPU Mark, etc.) without any issue.

Reyfox wrote on 4/7/2025, 5:58 AM

Without having actual footage to test on my all AMD computer, it is hard to say. I have the RX 6700XT and am using driver 25.3.1.

As for uninstalling AMD drivers, I use AMD's Cleanup Utility.

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OTBW wrote on 4/13/2025, 4:27 PM

Ok I might try a previous driver, I'm using 25.3.2. Tried a video again last night, tons of errors in the render. I rendered without a graphics card (bloody slow!) and its fine.

RogerS wrote on 4/13/2025, 6:16 PM

Do either of the projects in my signature render well with the GPU? If so it must be something specific to this project. Hopefully we can narrow it down.

OTBW wrote on 4/13/2025, 7:47 PM

Hi Roger. I ran that and no problems (was really slow though). I also ran my project at your bit rate and it was fine. Soon as I raise the bitrate, problems start happening, strange

RogerS wrote on 4/13/2025, 8:38 PM

Thanks for checking. If a different driver doesn't help I'd report it to AMD and VEGAS support and let them know about the issue at high bitrates.

The default bitrate is pretty high so maybe try that for now until the issue is resolved?

OTBW wrote on 4/14/2025, 12:34 AM

Yeah I'll experiment with bitrates. I remember on old cards I couldn't go over 50 or it would do the same. Thanks for the help!

Reyfox wrote on 4/14/2025, 5:05 AM

@OTBW which older cards are you referring to? Thanks!

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RobertoL wrote on 4/23/2025, 8:39 AM

Hi.I once had to work on a workstation provided by an employer that used a Gigabyte RX 5700 XT AORUS, and the experience was terrible. I almost gave up on using Vegas Pro, thinking the issues were with the software itself. I constantly dealt with unexpected crashes, which forced me to save my projects constantly—and even then, the autosave often missed my latest changes. My final renders would also have random black sections, which was incredibly frustrating.

Later, when I started working on my personal projects, I used an Intel iGPU, and everything was totally stable. I then upgraded to an Intel Arc GPU, which was about 95% stable—just the occasional render glitch. Now, with the latest generation of NVIDIA GPUs, I haven't had a single complaint.

So my question is: does Vegas Pro historically have poor support for AMD GPUs, or is this more of an AMD driver issue?

Reyfox wrote on 4/23/2025, 8:53 AM

@RobertoL not that I am aware of. I had a RX480 8GB and then updated to the 6700XT and have had zero issues with either the drivers or the cards themselves. There are others (although rare) that have other AMD cars and are editing right along.

Dexcon wrote on 4/23/2025, 8:56 AM

@RobertoL  ...

So my question is: does Vegas Pro historically have poor support for AMD GPUs, or is this more of an AMD driver issue?

Just an observation of forum comments over the years. Around 10 years ago I recall that there were more problems with NVIDIA GPUs than AMD GPUs. I was happy at the time because my computer had an AMD RX 480 GPU. But that situation seems to have somewhat swapped places over time because more issues seem to arise these days with AMD GPUs than NVIDIA GPUs. Of course, this is not in all cases and not with every usage in Vegas Pro. In writing the above, I am only indicating a maybe subtle trend that I have noticed over the years.

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BruceUSA wrote on 4/26/2025, 6:15 PM

I had nothing but positive view of AMD cards over the years. In fact, two of my other desktop PC has Radeon Frontier Edition 16GB (old but it was a high end card at that time) still working great with Vegas. My 2nd system is a 6900XT 16GB works great both in Vegas. My 3rd desktop i9 core ultra 285K and NVidia RTX 5080 16GB also work great in Vegas, no issue and am suprised it even work with Magix. I am suprised that your 9070 XT not supported at this time. I am sure, Magix will update that as they have done so in the pass with newest release of GPU. I now edit mainly in Davinci Resolve studio and occasionally still use Vegas for slideshow and other quick edit

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John-Callahan wrote on 6/15/2025, 4:05 AM

I have a RX 9070. Using it for GPU acceleration for older video sources (.avi of 1080P or less) works great. However, with 4K MP4's from my Sony and GoPro I find that occasional clips in my timeline will be grossly pixelated in the rendered MP4. I render using the template 'Internet UHD 2160P 25fps (AMD VCE). Using either my RX 9070 or even my AMD 9900X Radeon graphic as the accelerator will result in the same problem. My only workaround is either:

  • Render without GPU acceleration (encode mode = Mainconcept AVC) = Slow render times
  • Use an alternative software, which I use Wondershare for other tasks. Wondershare renders the same timeline a bit faster than Vegas Pro 22 (with GPU acceleration). To me this means it is inherently using my RX 9070 to accelerator the render.

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RogerS wrote on 6/15/2025, 7:05 PM

@John-Callahan Could you provide more detail? Are the pixelation problems ever apparent on the timeline or only the render? Does it matter what the source media is?

The OP here was able to avoid problems by lowering the render bitrate. Does that work for you?

Do the two known good projects in my signature render without glitches?

Hopefully we can get to the bottom of this.

 

John-Callahan wrote on 6/16/2025, 2:28 AM

@RogerS I did a few more experiments, which I will share the results before. Strangely enough, on this occasion I do not get pixelation as I was getting every time under certain setting and instead I am now getting a stutter affect as described as follows:

  1. Several frames are seen as fine
  2. Then those same frames are repeated over and over again
  3. At the same time the audio in the background continues uninterrupted

Below are images of the settings I used to render:

  1. Default template: DefaultTemplate-Internet UHD 2160p 25 fps (AMD VCE).png
  2. Custom template (fixed bitrate): CustomTemplate-Internet UHD 2160p 25 fps (AMD VCE) 90mbps.png
  3. Non-GPU accelerated template: DefaultTemplate-Internet UHD 2160p 25 fps.png

For the my timeline I reduced to include 3 clips only. The first clip is short and OK (7 seconds). The next clip has the problem (33 seconds). The last clip also has the problem, but not as much (60 seconds). Overall the rendered video is 01:40. Below are the results from using the templates shown above, where the custom template is altered to 3 different fixed rates (90mbps, 28mbps & 10mbps):

  1. DefaultTemplate-Internet UHD 2160p 25 fps (AMD VCE): 728Mb - Clip 1=Ok, Clip2=Sever stutter with about 5 seconds repeated beyond the original length & clip3: Some stuttering during the clip
  2. Default Non-GPU accelerated-DefaultTemplate-Internet UHD 2160p 25 fps: 610Mb - All clips OK
  3. Custom template: Internet UHD 2160p 25 fps (AMD VCE) 90mbps: 1.04Gb - About the same amount of stuttering as #1
  4. Custom template: Internet UHD 2160p 25 fps (AMD VCE) 28mbps: 395Mb - Clip 1=Ok, Clip2=Sever stutter for about half of the clip, but no stutter beyond the original length & clip3: No apparent stuttering during the clip
  5. Custom template: Internet UHD 2160p 25 fps (AMD VCE) 10mbps: 156Mb - All clips OK

What I also find strange is that #1 and #2 above use the same settings, except #1 is GPU accelerated, that they are vastly different sizes.

Also note I tried a trail version of Da Vinci Resolve and found is had no problem with any render setting I tried. However, I do note that the settings used in Da Vinci Resolve resulted in less sharp video than Vegas Pro. For this reason only, I am very interested in finding a solution to this in Vegas Pro so that my rendered video can take advantage of a sharper impage.

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John-Callahan wrote on 6/16/2025, 3:03 AM

@RogerS - I found a solution. It has to do with the Preset. In the default template the 'Preset' is set to 'Default'. If I change it to either 'High performance' or 'High Quality', then the results are about the same. However, if I use any of the 'Low latency' options, then the problem goes away:

So, I will for now on only use my custom template to include a 'Low latency' option.

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RogerS wrote on 6/16/2025, 6:09 AM

@John-Callahan Is it possible to get the three clips for testing? Options other than low latency really should work.

John-Callahan wrote on 6/16/2025, 7:59 AM

@RogerS - I have uploaded to my OneDrive location and a shared folder for anyone having access to the link shown below:

Note that these clips were taken from my Sony A6400. In my description prior referring to clip 1 to 3 are these clips C0004 to C0006.

This is the link you should have access the the files:

https://1drv.ms/f/c/23fbf66dfe042b97/EtKKwEQVcXxJule3huUHOCIBAvxolmwcsRwQxXGUqPTEvA?e=iI23B3

I will probably remove this shared folder in the future, but will leave it for several months.

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Reyfox wrote on 6/16/2025, 10:38 AM

@John-Callahan thanks for the footage. I downloaded and rendered the footage using AMD VCE, specifically MAGIX AVC/AAC MP4>Internet UHD 2160p 25fps (AMD VCE), I used the "Default" preset.

I added a cross dissolve between the clips and fades at the beginning and the last clip. No issues or glitches, or anything. I can upload to Youtube as unlisted and provide a link if you would like to see the results.

Oh, and it rendered at 61fps, with the GPU working at around 99-100%.

 

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John-Callahan wrote on 6/16/2025, 12:02 PM

@Reyfox - Can you attach your Vegas Pro project file (.veg)? I can try it on my PC. Not sure whether you have a different AMD GPU then mine (RX 9070) and whether that may be the difference.

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John-Callahan wrote on 6/16/2025, 12:19 PM

@Reyfox - I tried a simple fade-out/in between clips (2s) and found the intensity of the stuttering on clip 2 increased. The stuttering was amplified by an apparent change in brightness. For clarity I uploaded to my shared OneDrive folder (Clips_4_6_with_fadeinout.mp4)

Vegas Pro 22 (VP19 also installed. Started with VP7)

Windows 11 (Version 10.0.26100 Build 26100)

AMD Ryzen 9 9900X (12 core, 24 threads)

64GB DDR5 6000 (CL30)

ASUS Prime Gaming Radeon RX 9070 OC (Driver version 25.10.13.01)

MSI MAG X870 Tomahawk WiFi

Monitors: 32" Philips Evnia 32M2N6800M & 27" LG 27UP650P-W

Cameras: GoPro Hero 7 Black, GoPro Hero 12 Black & Sony A6400

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Reyfox wrote on 6/16/2025, 12:50 PM

@John-Callahan my computer specs are in my Signature below. I suggest you do the same thing in your User Profile. I'm using VP22 B250.

Here is a LINK to the .veg file on my Google Drive. You will have to link up the footage that you supplied on your OneDrive.

Playback was Best>Full and it played back at 25fps.

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