Black screen

Optifyne wrote on 12/11/2023, 6:04 AM

Hello, I am a newbie in Vegas Effects, so maybe this is the stupid problem, but I haven't found answer on the Internet.

When I create the new project in VE and drag some media into it, I see only black screen and don't see any videos on my preview screen. I have attached the screenshot.

 

Thank you.

 

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Dexcon wrote on 12/11/2023, 6:12 AM

Vegas Effects is accessible by R clicking on a video event on Vegas Pro's timeline and from the context window that opens click on 'Edit in VEGAS Effects'. To my undertsanding, VEGAS Effects is not a standalone program accessible outside of Vegas Pro.

Cameras: Sony FDR-AX100E; GoPro Hero 11 Black Creator Edition

Installed: Vegas Pro 16, 17, 18, 19, 20 & 21, HitFilm Pro 2021.3, DaVinci Resolve Studio 18.5, BCC 2023.5, Mocha Pro 2023, Ignite Pro, NBFX TotalFX 7, Neat NR, DVD Architect 6.0, MAGIX Travel Maps, Sound Forge Pro 16, SpectraLayers Pro 11, iZotope RX10 Advanced and many other iZ plugins, Vegasaur 4.0

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C drive: 2TB Samsung 990 PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 PCIe SSD

D: drive: 4TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD (used for media for editing current projects)

E: drive: 2TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD

F: drive: 6TB WD 7200 rpm Black HDD 3.5"

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Optifyne wrote on 12/11/2023, 6:21 AM

Vegas Effects is accessible by R clicking on a video event on Vegas Pro's timeline and from the context window that opens click on 'Edit in VEGAS Effects'. To my undertsanding, VEGAS Effects is not a standalone program accessible outside of Vegas Pro.

Yes, I have done as you have said, but unfortunately I still have black screen.

Dexcon wrote on 12/11/2023, 6:26 AM

The next step is to provide a lot of detailed information about your computer and the media that you are using as per https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/important-information-required-to-help-you--110457/. Please note especially the request at point C-1 which asks for a detailed MediaInfo report (a free app) about the media.

Cameras: Sony FDR-AX100E; GoPro Hero 11 Black Creator Edition

Installed: Vegas Pro 16, 17, 18, 19, 20 & 21, HitFilm Pro 2021.3, DaVinci Resolve Studio 18.5, BCC 2023.5, Mocha Pro 2023, Ignite Pro, NBFX TotalFX 7, Neat NR, DVD Architect 6.0, MAGIX Travel Maps, Sound Forge Pro 16, SpectraLayers Pro 11, iZotope RX10 Advanced and many other iZ plugins, Vegasaur 4.0

Windows 11

Dell Alienware Aurora 11

10th Gen Intel i9 10900KF - 10 cores (20 threads) - 3.7 to 5.3 GHz

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8GB GDDR6 - liquid cooled

64GB RAM - Dual Channel HyperX FURY DDR4 XMP at 3200MHz

C drive: 2TB Samsung 990 PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 PCIe SSD

D: drive: 4TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD (used for media for editing current projects)

E: drive: 2TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD

F: drive: 6TB WD 7200 rpm Black HDD 3.5"

Dell Ultrasharp 32" 4K Color Calibrated Monitor

MikeS wrote on 12/11/2023, 6:49 AM

 

To my undertsanding, VEGAS Effects is not a standalone program accessible outside of Vegas Pro.

Vegas Effects (and Image) quite happily run standalone.

I have attached the screenshot.

Silly question, I know, but have you tried playing the video in Vegas? Could it be that the first frame (or few frames) are actually just a black screen?

 

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Optifyne wrote on 12/11/2023, 6:56 AM

 

To my undertsanding, VEGAS Effects is not a standalone program accessible outside of Vegas Pro.

Vegas Effects (and Image) quite happily run standalone.

I have attached the screenshot.

Silly question, I know, but have you tried playing the video in Vegas? Could it be that the first frame (or few frames) are actually just a black screen?

 

I run ANY videos successfully in the Vegas Pro, but when I try to edit them in the Vegas Effects, I get a black screen for a whole video, I only hear the sound. This happens with any videos. I sure that I miss something simple.

Dexcon wrote on 12/11/2023, 6:57 AM

Vegas Effects (and Image) quite happily run standalone.

Interesting. I just tried dragging a video as the OP did but it doesn't work. But you are correct if File/Vegas/Import is used - then a video event can be imported successfully into VE. I stand corrected.

Cameras: Sony FDR-AX100E; GoPro Hero 11 Black Creator Edition

Installed: Vegas Pro 16, 17, 18, 19, 20 & 21, HitFilm Pro 2021.3, DaVinci Resolve Studio 18.5, BCC 2023.5, Mocha Pro 2023, Ignite Pro, NBFX TotalFX 7, Neat NR, DVD Architect 6.0, MAGIX Travel Maps, Sound Forge Pro 16, SpectraLayers Pro 11, iZotope RX10 Advanced and many other iZ plugins, Vegasaur 4.0

Windows 11

Dell Alienware Aurora 11

10th Gen Intel i9 10900KF - 10 cores (20 threads) - 3.7 to 5.3 GHz

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8GB GDDR6 - liquid cooled

64GB RAM - Dual Channel HyperX FURY DDR4 XMP at 3200MHz

C drive: 2TB Samsung 990 PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 PCIe SSD

D: drive: 4TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD (used for media for editing current projects)

E: drive: 2TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD

F: drive: 6TB WD 7200 rpm Black HDD 3.5"

Dell Ultrasharp 32" 4K Color Calibrated Monitor

Gid wrote on 12/11/2023, 7:00 AM

@Optifyne It looks like you have Layer selected, you need to be on Viewer.

PS, Agreed, VE works as a standalone.

Last changed by Gid on 12/11/2023, 7:02 AM, changed a total of 1 times.

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Optifyne wrote on 12/11/2023, 7:05 AM

@Optifyne It looks like you have Layer selected, you need to be on Viewer.

PS, Agreed, VE works as a standalone.

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Gid wrote on 12/11/2023, 7:16 AM

 I just tried dragging a video as the OP did but it doesn't work

Maybe something has changed, my VE is from VP19

Last changed by Gid on 12/11/2023, 7:35 AM, changed a total of 1 times.

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Magix VPX14
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Mocha Pro Standalone + Plugin, 
Boris Optics,
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I'm 55, I've been a UK joiner for 39yrs, apprentice trained & time served, I make videos about my work & post them on Youtube so that I can share what I've learnt over the yrs,
https://www.youtube.com/c/Gidjoiner

At the moment my filming is done with a Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra 

MikeS wrote on 12/11/2023, 7:26 AM

Interesting. I just tried dragging a video as the OP did but it doesn't work.

Works fine here with standalone Vegas Effects 4 and 5. Seem to recall it worked fine with VE 3 as well, but I no longer have a version of that that I can test.


(This is sometimes frustrating with Vegas. Things that work fine for one person don't work for another. For example I can't use any (well, almost all) of the Boris Continuum BCC+ tools in VE5 - they cause it crashes immediatel, whilst others report it works fine (and it worked fine for me in VE4))

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Optifyne wrote on 12/11/2023, 7:33 AM

 I just tried dragging a video as the OP did but it doesn't work

Maybe something has changed, my VE is from VP20

I have done the same now, but it didn't help me. I'm confused.

MikeS wrote on 12/11/2023, 7:34 AM

Just for the purposes of experimentation, can you try


File > Options > Render

and uncheck 'Use hardware decoding if available'

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Gid wrote on 12/11/2023, 7:34 AM

@MikeS Mine was from VP19, I've corrected my comment above, Is this VE3?

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https://www.youtube.com/c/Gidjoiner

At the moment my filming is done with a Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra 

Optifyne wrote on 12/11/2023, 7:41 AM

Just for the purposes of experimentation, can you try


File > Options > Render

and uncheck 'Use hardware decoding if available'

Perfect! Thank you.

Gid wrote on 12/11/2023, 8:47 AM

@Optifyne Hi, glad you've found a solution, can you click your icon at the top of this page - My Profile & fill in your Signature with the full name of your CPU, GPU & amount of RAM, also inc the Windows & Vegas version, this will then show at the bottom of your comments & from this it'll also help understand the problem you had 👍

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Magix Movie Studio Platinum 2024 - from 2004-ish - Latest version,
Magix VPX14
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Silhouette Standalone + Plugin, 
Mocha Pro Standalone + Plugin, 
Boris Optics,
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ASUS PRO WS WRX80E-SAGE SE WIFI AMD Motherboard
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Graphics MSI GeForce RTX 3090 SUPRIM X 24GB OC GPU
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I'm 55, I've been a UK joiner for 39yrs, apprentice trained & time served, I make videos about my work & post them on Youtube so that I can share what I've learnt over the yrs,
https://www.youtube.com/c/Gidjoiner

At the moment my filming is done with a Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra 

Optifyne wrote on 12/11/2023, 1:05 PM

@Optifyne Hi, glad you've found a solution, can you click your icon at the top of this page - My Profile & fill in your Signature with the full name of your CPU, GPU & amount of RAM, also inc the Windows & Vegas version, this will then show at the bottom of your comments & from this it'll also help understand the problem you had 👍

Okay, thx.

MikeS wrote on 12/11/2023, 1:59 PM

Is this VE3?

@Gid It is indeed

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Gid wrote on 12/11/2023, 6:25 PM

@Optifyne @MikeS Thanks for updating your Signature, I'm a bit puzzled, 'uncheck 'Use hardware decoding if available'' - but I don't think you should have a problem with a RTX 3050 Ti ? or am I misunderstanding? 🤔

Check your graphics driver is up to date, GeForce Experience will make that easy https://www.nvidia.com/en-gb/geforce/geforce-experience/ or go to Vegas Pro - Help - Check for driver updates.

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Magix Movie Studio Platinum 2024 - from 2004-ish - Latest version,
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Boris Optics,
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RAM 256GB ( 8x Micron 32GB (1x 32GB) 2666MHz DDR4 RAM )
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(programs on one, project files on the other)
Graphics MSI GeForce RTX 3090 SUPRIM X 24GB OC GPU
ASUS ROG Thor 1200W Semi-Modular 80+ Platinum PSU 
Fractal Design Define 7 XL Dark TG Case with 3 Fans
Dell SE3223Q 31.5 Inch 4K UHD (3840x2160) Monitor, 60Hz, 

I'm 55, I've been a UK joiner for 39yrs, apprentice trained & time served, I make videos about my work & post them on Youtube so that I can share what I've learnt over the yrs,
https://www.youtube.com/c/Gidjoiner

At the moment my filming is done with a Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra 

MikeS wrote on 12/12/2023, 6:36 AM

> I don't think you should have a problem with a RTX 3050 Ti 

It's a behaviour inherited from HitFilm. FXHome may address this in HitFilm, but Magix' current strategy of only updating Vegas Effects (and Image) with a new version release of Vegas (rather than the older way of pretty much following the HitFilm bug fix releases) means we probably won't see this fixed for another 9 or 10 months at best

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Optifyne wrote on 12/12/2023, 9:32 AM

@Optifyne @MikeS Thanks for updating your Signature, I'm a bit puzzled, 'uncheck 'Use hardware decoding if available'' - but I don't think you should have a problem with a RTX 3050 Ti ? or am I misunderstanding? 🤔

Check your graphics driver is up to date, GeForce Experience will make that easy https://www.nvidia.com/en-gb/geforce/geforce-experience/ or go to Vegas Pro - Help - Check for driver updates.

Thank you, drivers update helped me, I think.