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musicvid10 wrote on 7/4/2015, 7:32 AM
An avchd file on a DVD should play on a Bluray player.
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JohnnyRoy wrote on 7/4/2015, 7:45 AM
It depends on your Blu-ray player. Blu-ray on DVD media is not officially supported. I have one Blu-ray player that will not play them. I have another that tries to play it for a few minutes and then stutters and stops. So yes, it can be done. No, it might not work on your Blu-ray player.

So if this is just for yourself, try it and see if it will work on your player. if this is for someone else, buy a Blu-ray Burner and stop fooling around. They are dirt cheap!

~jr
Former user wrote on 7/4/2015, 8:22 AM
"if this is for someone else, buy a Blu-ray Burner and stop fooling around. They are dirt cheap!"

Yep. I know what you mean. But, to tell you the truth, this is for a memorial presentation at a wake, and I have never needed to produce an HD disk before. And I suspect I will never in the future. It's just that the funeral home has a blu ray player and wanted a disk that would play in their machine. A standard, wide aspect DVD will work just fine. I just thought an HD version would be much better since it will be playing on a 60" screen.

They are not sure, but I think the monitor they have is a "smart" device that has the ability to playback HD content from a USB thumb drive. So, I will get that ready and bring it along with me to try before the wake starts.

Thanks.

Jim
Kimberly wrote on 7/4/2015, 9:56 AM
@jdw:

If you use DVD-A, you will find this capability in Build 124. It quietly disappeared in subsequent builds. I wrote to SCS support asking about this and they indicated it was due to copyright issues.

If you search on my name and the following keywords, you will find some discussion on this. If you cannot find it, let me know and I will post a link and/or send you my workflow.

BD5
BD9
BD-5
BD-9

Essentially you render in the proper BD compatible format in Vegas and burn the BD to DVD by choosing the right menu options in DVD-A 5.2 Build 124.

Be aware the disc may not play on all BD players. In my case it plays on my old-ish Sony BD player. I haven't tried on my new-ish Samsung. It doesn't play on a DVD player.

It's kinda cool to put BD material on a DVD, but I echo the advice of others in saying that a BD burner is dirt cheap. You can get a nice USB driven external burner for about $130 from New Egg. Not super fast but works brilliantly. Of course if you have a time constraint for a memorial, you may not have enough lead time. In that case the "BD5" is a good workaround if you are certain the player will play it.

Regards,

Kimberly
john_dennis wrote on 7/4/2015, 12:57 PM
As I buy new players the ability to play a Blu-ray image on DVD-5 and DVD-9 is disappearing. In the past, I did it a lot even before I owned one of the Blu-ray burners that I have now.


1280x720-59.94p is an official pixel dimension and frame rate for Blu-ray but no standard template exists in Vegas Pro.

http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/forums/showmessage.asp?forumid=4&messageid=781091

The second entry in this thread will get you started.

These days, I most often create Blu-ray standard video and audio files in Vegas Pro, mux them to .m2ts wrapper in tsMuxer and play them from a USB thumb drive in the Blu-ray player or smart TV.
PeterDuke wrote on 7/5/2015, 3:37 AM
I too tried HD video on red-ray DVD in days or yore. Such discs created by DVD Arch would not play on my ancient BD recorder unless modified with a little utility called AVCHD Patcher. Discs made by some other software would play without modification.

You could try the free MultiAVCHD, but it is a little buggy and development has apparently stopped. (Its time has passed!)

Corel DVD MovieFactory, Nero Vision, Cyberlink PowerDirector, Sony PMB (now Play Memories Home) were the other programs I played with.

TMPGEnc Authoring Works will author Progressive 1920x1080 50/60 fps AVCHD on BD with menu. I expect that you could use DVDs instead of BDs, but I have not tried. I have yet to find a way to play the discs, folders or ISO files on my TV, but they will play on a PC using Nero BD player or Cyberlink PowerDVD.
Chienworks wrote on 7/5/2015, 7:23 AM
"They are not sure, but I think the monitor they have is a "smart" device that has the ability to playback HD content from a USB thumb drive. So, I will get that ready and bring it along with me to try before the wake starts."

That is most likely the best option possible. Can you get from them the make/model of the TV? It should be a pretty quick google search to find out if it has that capability or not.

For that matter i picked up a couple of little "Smart TV" boxes at Walmart for around $40 each that have HDMI and A/V outputs, and also have a MicroSD card slot. The one sitting at my elbow at the moment is a Netgear NeoTV Max. They make very decent and quite cheap media players that i can connect to pretty much any TV or projector in a heartbeat. I've run a variety of MPEG2 and MP4 AVC files at various resolutions through them without a hitch.
BruceUSA wrote on 7/5/2015, 9:28 AM
I used Cyberlink PowerDirector to create AVCHD video on DVD and it plays every times on my Panasonic/Sony BD player.

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Former user wrote on 7/7/2015, 7:55 AM
Thanks everyone for the excellent suggestions. The TV they provided didn't have a USB port, in fact, it wasn't the TV they said they were going to use. It was a 32" with a built-in DVD player (not Blu Ray)... So, the wide screen NTSC DVD I made worked just fine and the video quality was okay for the smaller display.

As a sidebar, I used Animoto to create the presentation and everyone was very pleased with the results. What would have taken days to create only took an hour including scanning the photos.

Jim
DGates wrote on 7/7/2015, 11:00 AM
If they were pleased with it, that's all that matters. Personally, I found the montage a bit over produced and distracting, taking away from the actual images of this person and his family. In my opinion, less is more. Let the pictures tell the story, not the effects.
Former user wrote on 7/7/2015, 12:32 PM
alternate version is much easier to watch. Too much out of focus on the first one.

Glad everyone liked it.
Tech Diver wrote on 7/7/2015, 12:44 PM
I personally found the foreground leaves, floating dust and the simulated camera shake to be distracting. But as long as everyone liked it, that's fine. I too believe in the less-is-more philosophy and nearly exclusive use only cross-fades or cuts for transitions. Again, these are only my personal thoughts.

Peter
Former user wrote on 7/7/2015, 1:20 PM
Thanks for the responses. Animoto offers many styles, may of them less "busy" than these two. But, for this purpose, everyone that needed to like it -- did -- quite a lot in fact. So, I rendered it and burned it to DVD and moved onto other aspects of helping prepare for the funeral (it was my brother-in-law). Thanks again.
Former user wrote on 7/7/2015, 1:24 PM
Which again reminds us that the average person watches videos different than we do. We need to be aware of that.
R0cky wrote on 7/8/2015, 6:03 PM
+1 on newer bluray players not playing BD-5 or BD-9 (bluray on DVD media). I am having to re-author a bunch of things onto bluray media to make sure I can play them in the future since the last 2 players I bought would not play them.

Also, at least one manufacturer, Oppo, will not play unencrypted disks. I have email from their tech support people saying it is due to pressure from movie companies to not play pirated disks. Well my disks are my material and not pirated but they won't play in an Oppo player no matter what media they are burned on. Good luck making an encrypted disk for less than $25K.

rocky