Build 636 Turned My Software Into A Brick. 643 Didn't Help.

BobbyP wrote on 6/22/2022, 8:23 PM

My Vegas Pro 19 was working like a charm until I downloaded 636, and now it won't render anything. It won't even re-render old videos I wanted to add a single, static graphic to. It renders for 2 minutes (showing 20+ hours until completion for a 30-minute 720p video with only 5 tracks) and then just stops, freezing the program.

I updated to 643 but it has made no difference whatsoever.

I have a new computer, only 4 months old, so It should handle the workload with no problem. Here are the specs:

Device name    DELL Inspirion 7706 2N1
Processor    11th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-1165G7 @ 2.80GHz   2.80 GHz
Installed RAM    16.0 GB (15.7 GB usable)
System type    64-bit operating system, x64-based processor
Pen and touch    Touch support with 10 touch points

Edition    Windows 11 Home
Version    21H2
Installed on    ‎2/‎7/‎2022
OS build    22000.739
Experience    Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.22000.739.0

I publish my own newscast and MUST have a working video editor. I have missed TWO WEEKS worth of shows due to this problem, costing me thousands of dollars. Sure would appreciate some help, most ricky-tick.

Comments

RogerS wrote on 6/22/2022, 9:59 PM

Should probably file a tech support request given the urgency for you: https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/support/

I would also recommend uploading a screenshot of your file i/o settings and render template settings.

This laptop has a NVIDIA® GeForce® MX350, 2 GB GDDR5 card? That ram amount is below the minimum VP 19 wants. Perhaps it needs to be disabled in Vegas and I would not use it for renders (so no NVENC, try QSV instead).

As a workaround you could also try a tool like Voukoder which takes the raw frames from Vegas and encodes it separately: voukoder.org/

As another workaround you could pay someone to render videos for you in the interim- should be cheaper for you than not being able to render at all!

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Vegas 19.636

RogerS wrote on 6/22/2022, 10:15 PM

Clearly not the same issue @tactech as you reported overall program slowness, not render crashes and Bobby P had the same issue with 636. Not all problems with Vegas are the same, or even related.

tactech wrote on 6/23/2022, 8:07 AM

@RogerS Yes you are right. Thank you for correcting me. I should have said NOT the same here ... build 636 works for me https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/what-have-you-done-to-vegas-pro-build-643--135889/ even thought @BobbyP has already tried it.

I was so frustrated with the 643 build that I overlooked things in this post and only saw the last part of the title " 643 Didn't Help" that caught my attention and once the 636 started working for me I was saved ;-) and overenjoyed.

BobbyP wrote on 6/23/2022, 8:11 AM

Should probably file a tech support request given the urgency for you: https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/support/

I would also recommend uploading a screenshot of your file i/o settings and render template settings.

This laptop has a NVIDIA® GeForce® MX350, 2 GB GDDR5 card? That ram amount is below the minimum VP 19 wants. Perhaps it needs to be disabled in Vegas and I would not use it for renders (so no NVENC, try QSV instead).

As a workaround you could also try a tool like Voukoder which takes the raw frames from Vegas and encodes it separately: voukoder.org/

As another workaround you could pay someone to render videos for you in the interim- should be cheaper for you than not being able to render at all!

Watch for me on the news. I'm not a computer geek (no offense) but a writer forced to use video as my medium. I am about to murder the Best Buy employee who told me this computer would be more than capable of doing the job.

THAT WAS DARK HUMOR, I WAS NOT SERIOUS.

But I am going to pay his manager a visit today, that you can believe.

Thank you.

RogerS wrote on 6/23/2022, 8:45 AM

Oh dear... I'd say they got you close, but the GPU is under-specified for video editing. Here are the recommended specs for Vegas: https://www.vegascreativesoftware.com/us/specifications/

Do see if you can make any of the workarounds happen so you can at least get your projects done.

Seb-o wrote on 6/24/2022, 10:03 AM

Oh dear... I'd say they got you close, but the GPU is under-specified for video editing. Here are the recommended specs for Vegas: https://www.vegascreativesoftware.com/us/specifications/

Do see if you can make any of the workarounds happen so you can at least get your projects done.

Yes, a bit underpowered in Graphix, as per 'state of the art' but that is not his problem, IT WAS WORKING LIKE A CHARM, he states with Vegas 19 and now not. That machine is very solid for his relatively modest type production. Something else going on. You can't have too much machine for video, that's always true, and a workstation or custom configured PC is definitely the way to go, but again, his specs are not all that bad, and for 720p news cast with 5 tracks. I've used twenty years.

j-v wrote on 6/24/2022, 10:18 AM

Yes, a bit underpowered in Graphix, as per 'state of the art' but that is not his problem, IT WAS WORKING LIKE A CHARM, he states with Vegas 19 and now not.

And therefore @RogerS was asking this :"I would also recommend uploading a screenshot of your file i/o settings and render template settings", but he did not get a reaction on that from @BobbyP

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BobbyP wrote on 6/24/2022, 10:36 AM

Oh dear... I'd say they got you close, but the GPU is under-specified for video editing. Here are the recommended specs for Vegas: https://www.vegascreativesoftware.com/us/specifications/

Do see if you can make any of the workarounds happen so you can at least get your projects done.

Yes, a bit underpowered in Graphix, as per 'state of the art' but that is not his problem, IT WAS WORKING LIKE A CHARM, he states with Vegas 19 and now not. That machine is very solid for his relatively modest type production. Something else going on. You can't have too much machine for video, that's always true, and a workstation or custom configured PC is definitely the way to go, but again, his specs are not all that bad, and for 720p news cast with 5 tracks. I've used twenty years.

It turns out that the Best Buy employee who exaggerated the capabilities of the laptop had been let go. The store manager was very accommodating and will allow me to return my 6-month old laptop for full credit. I ended up ordering this.

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/clx-set-gaming-desktop-intel-core-i7-10700-32gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3070-480gb-ssd-3tb-hdd-black/6439557.p?skuId=6439557

Think that will do the trick?

j-v wrote on 6/24/2022, 11:01 AM

Think that will do the trick?

If you also install the needed (GPU)drivers for video editting
In VPro 19 Help/Check for Driver Updates tells you wich .

 

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Laptop  :Asus EVO37T, W11 home version 21H2, CPU i7-10875H, 16 GB RAM, Intel UHD Graphics + NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070. VP 19 and VMS PL 17 are installed, all latest builds, Nvidia GPU driver version 512.96 Studiodriver and Intel GPU
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Reyfox wrote on 6/24/2022, 3:43 PM

Looking at air flow for the case... it looks like it's going to suffocate, which might cause thermal throttling of both CPU and GPU.

Proper air flow is extremely important when your hardware is running close the edge rendering. A 120mm water cooler isn't the best choice for cooling. Especially with the air coolers that are out there that are midrange.

The case I have my hardware in is a Phanteks P400a digital in white. I've added a rear 120mm exhaust fan. I am using an air cooler on my slightly overclocked Ryzen 9 3900X.