"I think that is incorrect. I doubt the camera recorded the video using that folder structure at all...."

I suspect you're not reading enough. You're relying on your own knowledge, or lack thereof.

Bob, you're a legend in your own mind, but contrary to popular belief, you are not "a friggin' GENIUS." You are not omniscient. You're pretty darn knowledgeable, but you do not know everything.

The JVC XDCAM EX cameras do use the BPAV folder file structure.

Do some research; even you will something new!

"Bob, you're a legend in your own mind, but contrary to popular belief, you are not "a friggin' GENIUS." You are not omniscient. You're pretty darn knowledgeable, but you do not know everything."

What provoked that response may I ask?

Seems to me you've got your nose out of joint over something but damned if I can figure out what. Never once did I assert I was right. Do you not comprehend the meaning of words such as "think" or "suspect" that are in what you quoted?

"Do some research; even you will something new"

Well I've done some more research.
Firstly the OP reads:
"Two 3.4 GB XDCAM-EX files were sent to me over the network, right off the JVC camera's chips.

I've reread Sidecar2's other posts and I cannot find much more than this. The information seems contradictory. Assuming the files were from the optional SxS card unit then indeed they should have been inside a BPAV file structure and Vegas could have handled them and so would have the Clipbrowser. I'm also inclined to think the recordings were not from the optional SxS card unit as they were described as "right off the JVC camera's chips'

However the camera can also record to the SDHC cards in QT. Now I don't know if it also writes them into a BPAV file structure, I suspect not. All I can find after some Googling is from an Avid forum which suggests that AMA cannot handle the QT files and only QT Pro will even play them. The only solution offered apart from a $100 3rd party tool is to switch the camera into MP4 mode and then run the files through Clipbrowser to get MXF files which AMA can handle.

So just so we're all clear I'm offering an alternate hypothesis as to what has actually gone on. My assumption is that Sidecar2 has been give bad information by his client, the files were not "XDCAM-EX files" files at all. The camera was set to record MOV files onto the SDHC cards. These would still contain video encoded with the XDCAM EX codec which is why the utility from CD worked, it sure will not work with anything else that I know of.

Now having said all that I also should ask this. You said: "The JVC XDCAM EX cameras do use the BPAV folder file structure."

Yes, they do, this camera does with the optional SxS card writer. That gets us to "they can", what I don't know with any certainty is if they always do, especially if set to record MOV, in fact I'm not even certain if they do when writing MP4 to the SDHC cards. If your research has turned up anything specific on this please share it because this is a thoroughly confusing camera.

Bob.

Hopefully these screen shots from my HM700 will settle this discussion once and for all.

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Mike

"What provoked that response may I ask?"

I think it's self-evident. You've given every indication that you are the final authority on all things, and I do mean all things, and nothing could be further from the truth. There is hardly a post in this forum that you don't reply to and correct or challenge something someone has provided. I don't know why any of the rest of us bother to post anything with you here.

You may "suspect" all you want, but that changes nothing of the reality of things.

Like I said, Bob, you're very knowledgeable, but trying to prove it at every turn gets wearisome, with nearly 21,000 post--maybe not a record, but it has to be pretty darn close.

"Hopefully these screen shots from my HM700 will settle this discussion once and for all."

Thank you Mike!
So if I read that correctly then the camera in "QT" mode writes a slightly different BPAV folder structure. Based on your previous comments the Clipbrowser will not work with this and you are unable to get the video into Vegas.
So even if Sidecar2's client had sent him the complete image of the BPAV folder(s) he'd still be dead in the water.

Moving on from there then there's two ways for us Vegas users to work with this camera.

1) Switch the camera into mp4 mode and handle it exactly the same as any other XDCAM EX footage.

2) If the video is already recorded or we have no control over how it is recorded then use the Convergent Design utility to rewrap the files to MXF and then Vegas will handle them. I'm not 100% certain this is correct because Jay may well be right, the files Sidecar2 was sent might in fact have been rewrapped by FCP and the possibility still exists that the CD utility cannot work with them.
Are you able to confirm that it will work with the camera original MOV files?

That's all I have been trying to do, distill all the information into something clear and easy to understand for when this issue arises again.

Bob.

Thank you Mike!

My pleasure Bob. It's about time I was able to help you instead of the other way around :)

So if I read that correctly then the camera in "QT" mode writes a slightly different BPAV folder structure.

The CQAV folder sitting beside the BPAV folder is created exclusively for MOV files.

Based on your previous comments the Clipbrowser will not work with this and you are unable to get the video into Vegas.

Correct. I tried and the MOV file won't even show up using ClipBrowser.

Moving on from there then there's two ways for us Vegas users to work with this camera.

Yes to #1.

#2. I didn't get a chance to try the Convergent Design utility today so I'll try it tomorrow and let you know.

Are you able to confirm that it will work with the camera original MOV files?

If you mean Vegas, then yes, it can read them.
If you meant the CD utility, see my reply above.

Mike

FYI --
One of the great things about the Convergent Design converter program is that, although they wrote it primarily to convert from (XDcam codec) MOV files written on their NanoFlash, I have also successfully rewrapped XDcam codec MOV files created in FCP to create standard XDcam MXF files editable in Vegas.
(Until they wrote the utility I was hesitant to record on my NanoFlash in MOV for FCP clients, worrying that the footage would be unusable on a PC. Their converter has already saved me several times!)

"My pleasure Bob. It's about time I was able to help you instead of the other way around :)"

Mike, thanks but it's not so much for my benefit that I wanted to clear this up.
One the one hand Bob, the village idiot, for once stumbled on a solution that helped someone but I still don't understand exactly what the problem was that my suggestion solved.

Bob.